Mystery wire

[g8dhe]

What is the VIN number either on the plate in the passenger door or stamped into the scuttle plate under the windscreen on the drivers side?
like

[Greenmachine96]

My VIN is SGLW 202950. Does that help?

[g8dhe]

So these are the details ?
Mazda Bongo Friendee, 19.06.1998
Grade: LTD Options: ｾﾞﾝｷｶﾞﾀ with sunroof diesel 2500 AT side ｽｶｰﾄ ﾅｼ normal differential A ﾌ"ﾚ-ｷ with 2WD with hyper seat
Frame/VIN: SGLW-202950 Manufactured: 19.06.1998 Trim: SC7 Color: A2T Seats: STC Doors: TDB

That says you have a Sunroof not an AFT, which might explain why the wiring doesn't match up!!!! Maybe someone has welded an AFT on top which might explain the problems ????

Have you got any pictures of the roof both inside and outside ? Wondering if someone has stripped out the sunroof and installed an AFT on top of the basic TinTop with sunroof!

[g8dhe]

The wiring for a Sunroof is on that date of vehicle;

and locations

[Greenmachine96]

Yep. That probably explains it! I'll send over some pics tonight. It does look very original inside, so not sure how it's happened.

Possibly why the roof light never lights up or flashes.

The roof loom carries a Yellow Blue wire which on mine is a bare loose wire and doesn't connect at x13. I.e. there's no yellow blue wire in the F loom to connect into at x13.

[Greenmachine96]

I bet the ATF is from the older model and so the roof loom is older

[g8dhe]

The only person I know who has done anything like this is Stuc on here, haven't seen him in a while here, but he is very active still on FB as Stuart Coates, I seem to recall he wasn't going to do one again either!

[Greenmachine96]

I'll see if I can track him down . Will he thank you for it?!

At least it confirms things for me and I can start trying to match diagrams and wires up without hitting dead ends. It was just so confusing!

[g8dhe]

I seem to recall he cut the old roof off completely then welded a complete AFT roof with its double skin into place, but as I recall (it was around 2018) he got Karl Chadwick to sort out the wiring in the end as large parts of the loom wiring weren't present and needed adding, which probably explains the current situation you have!