who manufactures the diesel bongo engines?

[FREDA MIND]

hi,can anyone tell me out of intersest who manufactures the diesel bongo engines?
is it isuzu???
cheers rick

[mikeonb4c]

I understand they are basically Ford Ranger engines, but with a few minor modifications (extra piping for a rear heater, ?higher compresison head). Hopefully someone else will chime in to confirm/correct that.

[bigdaddycain]

As far as i'm aware the WL-T 2.5litre turbodiesel engine is a mazda unit, the same engine block is used in the Mazda B-series or the Ford ranger, (those two respective models are as different from each other as a bongo or a freda, or a Mazda 121 and Mk 4 Ford fiesta)

[bigdaddycain]

I understand they are basically Ford Ranger engines, but with a few minor modifications (extra piping for a rear heater, ?higher compresison head). Hopefully someone else will chime in to confirm/correct that.

Yes mike, but the B-series Mazda was released in 2.5 litre diesel form prior to the ford ranger, which leads me to believe that the engine block is a Mazda unit. The ford ranger is more popular in the UK than the b-series Mazda, hence why the ranger is used generically for reference.

[FREDA MIND]

IM WELL IMPRESSED WITH THE PERFORMANCE OF MINE,I THINK I MAY NEED WHEELIE BARS LOL
WHATS THE BHP, I GUESS 130- 140 BHP????
RICK

[bigdaddycain]

My ears!

I've heard anything from 130- 136 BHP being bartered about. I'll get mine on a dyno one of these days!

[mikeonb4c]

I understand they are basically Ford Ranger engines, but with a few minor modifications (extra piping for a rear heater, ?higher compresison head). Hopefully someone else will chime in to confirm/correct that.

Yes mike, but the B-series Mazda was released in 2.5 litre diesel form prior to the ford ranger, which leads me to believe that the engine block is a Mazda unit. The ford ranger is more popular in the UK than the b-series Mazda, hence why the ranger is used generically for reference.

Aha! I'm afraid I was only regurgitating what has been said so often on here. So really, what peeps should be saying is 'the engine used in a Ford Ranger', not 'a Ford Ranger' engine.

I must admit, with its v. pleasant performance and given what sticklers the Japanese are, I've wondered how a US engine came to be in Jap vehicle, never mind that Ford had a share in Mazda. The mystery sounds like it might have an explanation

Incidentally - do you know if the 'higher compression head for a Bongo than for a Ranger' bit is confirmed as true?

[helen&tony]

Hi
The Mazda handbook quotes power as 125ps for the power output of the 2.5 TD.....it is an abbreviation for the German word Pferdestarke...which is German for horsepower....so , it's 125 Hp, or around 92 Kilowatts, (92 from memory)....so, not mind-blowing....pretty normal for an old diesel TD2.5
Cheers
Helen

[mikeonb4c]

Hi
The Mazda handbook quotes power as 125ps for the power output of the 2.5 TD.....it is an abbreviation for the German word Pferdestarke...which is German for horsepower....so , it's 125 Hp, or around 92 Kilowatts, (92 from memory)....so, not mind-blowing....pretty normal for an old diesel TD2.5
Cheers
Helen

and of course, excellent torque which - as Top Gear seem to say from time to time - is what so often gives good performance in the 40-60 speed range where it matters

[francophile1947]

Hi
The Mazda handbook quotes power as 125ps for the power output of the 2.5 TD.....it is an abbreviation for the German word Pferdestarke...which is German for horsepower....so , it's 125 Hp, or around 92 Kilowatts, (92 from memory)....so, not mind-blowing....pretty normal for an old diesel TD2.5
Cheers
Helen

Hmm!! 125PS is 123.29 BHP I though they were about 130BHP

[mikeonb4c]

Hi
The Mazda handbook quotes power as 125ps for the power output of the 2.5 TD.....it is an abbreviation for the German word Pferdestarke...which is German for horsepower....so , it's 125 Hp, or around 92 Kilowatts, (92 from memory)....so, not mind-blowing....pretty normal for an old diesel TD2.5
Cheers
Helen

Hmm!! 125PS is 123.29 BHP I though they were about 130BHP

Oh bum. Well that settles it. We'd better sell our Bongos John...........................not!

[bongoben]

Drivers handbook says 125ps @ 4000rpm for WL-T.

[mikeonb4c]

Drivers handbook says 125ps @ 4000rpm for WL-T.

Cripes - whoever runs theirs up to 4000rpm at today's fuel prices

[dandywarhol]

Max power is at max revs (nearly)...............max torque is around half that.

[scanner]

The Ford Ranger (except for the US market model) is just a rebadged Mazda B2500 made in Thailand, just as the Freda is just a rebadged Bongo made in Japan.

None of the bits used are "Ford" as such, it's just that Ford have a (big) share in Mazda and badge some Mazda as Fords in markets where they think it will sell more metal.

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