Van-X curtain rail.
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- Rapidair65
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Van-X curtain rail.
Fitting a Van-X curtain behind the cab seats and the headlining will not take a screw. How do you attach the rail? The only option I can see is to epoxy thread inserts into the headlining or drop the headlining and use bolts with large flat washers to take the load. Anyone any suggestions?
1998 green and silver V6 called 'Blossom'
2004 white 2 litre tin top called Buzz.
2004 white 2 litre tin top called Buzz.
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Re: Van-X curtain rail.
I've previously used the nut and bolt approach but I've also use these type of spring 'nuts' for self tapping screws in the headlining: http://www.boltproducts.com/self-retain ... 4_489.html
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Re: Van-X curtain rail.
Thanks Simon. We called this type of fastener a clip nut in aviation. They are used to attach floor panels to floor beam flanges and replace riveted anchor nuts. I am going to try a thread insert designed for wood with an M4 internal thread and a very coarse external thread. This will be epoxied into the headlining panel. McDonnell Douglas used this type of nut on their DC9 airliners very successfully on early composite panels which were wood skinned with a corrugated cardboard core.
1998 green and silver V6 called 'Blossom'
2004 white 2 litre tin top called Buzz.
2004 white 2 litre tin top called Buzz.
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Re: Van-X curtain rail.
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I'm not too sure of the position you're talking about, so I don't know the clearance, but would rubber nuts be use-able? They are a rubber top-hat with a standard nut in the back, and as you tighten, the rubber expands....they used to be suitable for hollow doors. I would use them in conjunction with a bit of decent epoxy on the back of the rail
Cheers
Helen
I'm not too sure of the position you're talking about, so I don't know the clearance, but would rubber nuts be use-able? They are a rubber top-hat with a standard nut in the back, and as you tighten, the rubber expands....they used to be suitable for hollow doors. I would use them in conjunction with a bit of decent epoxy on the back of the rail
Cheers
Helen
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Re: Van-X curtain rail.
Hi Helen, The OH wanted a curtain between the cab and the main part of the van for privacy while using the loo or if we were wild camping. I bought a Van-X curtain but when I came to attach the rail to the headlining behind the front seats, the screws would not hold as the material seems to be a very thin honeycomb material with the cloth covering. Similar stuff is used on aircraft ceiling panels and we would use steel inserts bonded in with epoxy. I can't get hold of the aircraft inserts so I'm going to try some I found on line which are similar to ones used on early wood based composites. Fingers crossed!!
1998 green and silver V6 called 'Blossom'
2004 white 2 litre tin top called Buzz.
2004 white 2 litre tin top called Buzz.
Re: Van-X curtain rail.
As temporary job I drape an old curtain over the front headrests.
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Re: Van-X curtain rail.
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Ah...I've only mounted bits in the front by the windscreen...I fixed a centre console with a TV screen and a couple of gauges in there...I seem to remember puttng some bracing behind it, and a good dose of epoxy...If the area you are using is a bit thinner, what about a small gauge rivnut bonded in?
Cheers
Helen
Ah...I've only mounted bits in the front by the windscreen...I fixed a centre console with a TV screen and a couple of gauges in there...I seem to remember puttng some bracing behind it, and a good dose of epoxy...If the area you are using is a bit thinner, what about a small gauge rivnut bonded in?
Cheers
Helen
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Re: Van-X curtain rail.
Done it! Rail and curtains now fitted. The curtains needed shortening by nine inches so I took the opportunity to insert some shot into the hem. This helps the curtains to drape properly. The headlining issue was solved by using the steel M4 thread inserts installed using epoxy. The material is very thin, probably less than 5mm but the inserts seemed to hold. At least now the OH can use the khazi and keep her modesty intact!
1998 green and silver V6 called 'Blossom'
2004 white 2 litre tin top called Buzz.
2004 white 2 litre tin top called Buzz.
Re: Van-X curtain rail.
Result.
If you put a bungy cord between the grab handles on one side it will hold a loo roll and kitchen roll.
If you put a bungy cord between the grab handles on one side it will hold a loo roll and kitchen roll.
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Re: Van-X curtain rail.
Towels work well too.Bob wrote:As temporary job I drape an old curtain over the front headrests.
I fixed an expandable curtain rail to the edging with crocodile clips on Tintin
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The night conceals the world, but reveals the universe!
Re: Van-X curtain rail.
Hi - first time poster and new Bongo owner here. I've just bought the same Van-X cab divider curtains for my '97 AFT. Stupid question, but whereabouts did you locate the rail? Seems like the ideal place is right where the open/close switch for the top lives.Rapidair65 wrote:Done it! Rail and curtains now fitted.
Thanks,
Andrew