Missing Banjo Filter?
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- Junior Bongonaut
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Missing Banjo Filter?
Hi - we recently purchased an early 2000 Ford Freda (2.5 diesel) whose service history is a bit thin on the ground. With this in mind I've given it an oil/air/diesel filter change and fresh oil. On the advice of various forum posts I went to check the Banjo filter but as far as I can see I don't have one! Would it have been removed for any reason? Presumably I shouldn't be running it without one...?
There also seems to be a distinct lack of power - certainly a lot more sluggish than our old Bongo (also a 2.5 Diesel) - any ideas?
There also seems to be a distinct lack of power - certainly a lot more sluggish than our old Bongo (also a 2.5 Diesel) - any ideas?
2003 AFT 2.5 heavy oil burner
Re: Missing Banjo Filter?
Banjo filter is the last line of defence against grot in the fuel getting into the engine. Highly recommended. The filter is recessed so not visible but can be pulled out using a cotton bud.
Can't think of a reason for not having one, except that it was damaged or lost and somebody couldn't be bothered to replace it.
Can't think of a reason for not having one, except that it was damaged or lost and somebody couldn't be bothered to replace it.
Chris with BertieB
'96 White unconverted AFT 2.5L Diesel 4WD
'96 White unconverted AFT 2.5L Diesel 4WD
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Re: Missing Banjo Filter?
I removed the banjo bolt and washers/spacers and gently put a cotton bud down into the hole. I inserted it far enough to (almost) lose the bud into the hole so I'm pretty certain there isn't a filter in there! Best purchase one...
2003 AFT 2.5 heavy oil burner
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Re: Missing Banjo Filter?
Available from the club shop: http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/mercha ... tm#Filters
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Re: Missing Banjo Filter?
year approx 99- 2000 onwards turbo is different to the early ones, its variable vanes can stick or even touch the outer turbo casing, the tolerances are really fine on the internals, this is ok when new but years on when the thing gets carboned up it starts to act up.this can also affect the wastegate, both these can result in loss of performance and can even put the bongo into limp mode etc.Grazedknuckles wrote:Hi - we recently purchased an early 2000 Ford Freda (2.5 diesel)
There also seems to be a distinct lack of power - certainly a lot more sluggish than our old Bongo (also a 2.5 Diesel) - any ideas?
i was reading something recently on cleaning these out by using oven cleaner then wash out but im sure you could buy a purpose made cleaner.
does anyone know if its a vnt turbo like this link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ppif4qC560U
Re: Missing Banjo Filter?
Grazedknuckles ....
Before you start sticking unwanted strainers into your FIP you need to check and make sure that your model of FIP actually supports a strainer.
The later type FIP on these wltd engines do not have a strainer (banjo filter)
Before you start sticking unwanted strainers into your FIP you need to check and make sure that your model of FIP actually supports a strainer.
The later type FIP on these wltd engines do not have a strainer (banjo filter)
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Re: Missing Banjo Filter?
teenmal wrote:Grazedknuckles ....
Before you start sticking unwanted strainers into your FIP you need to check and make sure that your model of FIP actually supports a strainer.
The later type FIP on these wltd engines do not have a strainer (banjo filter)
Hi teenmal - thank you for the advice. How would I go about checking whether my engine is meant to have a strainer or not? I've ordered one from the Bongo shop but as you say - I don't want to stuff an unwanted strainer in there!
2003 AFT 2.5 heavy oil burner
Re: Missing Banjo Filter?
Grazedknuckles wrote:teenmal wrote:Grazedknuckles ....
Before you start sticking unwanted strainers into your FIP you need to check and make sure that your model of FIP actually supports a strainer.
The later type FIP on these wltd engines do not have a strainer (banjo filter)
Hi teenmal - thank you for the advice. How would I go about checking whether my engine is meant to have a strainer or not? I've ordered one from the Bongo shop but as you say - I don't want to stuff an unwanted strainer in there!
You should be able to ask your parts department/supplier and they could check it is suitable ,you will need to give them the VIN and details from the pump casing.
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Interestingly although the diagrams at lushprojects show the banjo bolt, they don't show the spring and filter for any of the diesel revisions of the Bongo.Unless I'm looking at the wrong diagrams (Fuel Pump diagrams)
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noticed that also. I checked all fuel related diags.jimmo62 wrote:Interestingly although the diagrams at lushprojects show the banjo bolt, they don't show the spring and filter for any of the diesel revisions of the Bongo.Unless I'm looking at the wrong diagrams (Fuel Pump diagrams)
Chris with BertieB
'96 White unconverted AFT 2.5L Diesel 4WD
'96 White unconverted AFT 2.5L Diesel 4WD