Diesel Fuel Filter Problem

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Diesel Fuel Filter Problem

Post by Ian » Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:15 am

Take a look at the following photo

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The one on the left is the old filter, the one on the right in a new fuel filter as supplied by us at the Bongo Shop. We have had the same query from 2 different members about these newly supplied filters, and we are trying to establish what the problem is. Ian from Exmouth has told us:

"I've just removed the old fuel filter and when I try to fit the new fuel filter, I find that there isn't enough room in the base of it to re-fit the white plastic assembly." See the photo below.

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Forum user dave_aber also had this problem: "Looking at the old & new side by side, I can see that the internal plate in the old is around 42mm from the lower 'O' ring face, and on the new it's about 19mm."

So do we have a bad batch of filters on our hands? They are Solid Ace filters M303006. Or is there something else going on? Until the matter is resolved we have withdrawn our fuel filters from the Bongo Shop. I will also order a different brand fuel filter so we can have a look.
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Re: Diesel Fuel Filter Problem

Post by rita » Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:20 am

Ian wrote:Take a look at the following photo

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The one on the left is the old filter, the one on the right in a new fuel filter as supplied by us at the Bongo Shop. We have had the same query from 2 different members about these newly supplied filters, and we are trying to establish what the problem is. Ian from Exmouth has told us:

"I've just removed the old fuel filter and when I try to fit the new fuel filter, I find that there isn't enough room in the base of it to re-fit the white plastic assembly." See the photo below.

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Forum user dave_aber also had this problem: "Looking at the old & new side by side, I can see that the internal plate in the old is around 42mm from the lower 'O' ring face, and on the new it's about 19mm."

So do we have a bad batch of filters on our hands? They are Solid Ace filters M303006. Or is there something else going on? Until the matter is resolved we have withdrawn our fuel filters from the Bongo Shop. I will also order a different brand fuel filter so we can have a look.

The one on the left is probably a Crosland F30316. (Gold coloured filter)
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Re: Diesel Fuel Filter Problem

Post by Ian » Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:47 am

Maybe. But the Crosland filter cross references to the Solid one.
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Re: Diesel Fuel Filter Problem

Post by rita » Mon Jun 01, 2015 11:17 am

Ian wrote:Maybe. But the Crosland filter cross references to the Solid one.

Getting a bit confused here, the new filter that terminallybewildered has is MB433425 does this CR with M303006.?
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Re: Diesel Fuel Filter Problem

Post by silage » Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:38 pm

got two of the new for spares, will wait for update :(
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Re: Diesel Fuel Filter Problem

Post by Simon Jones » Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:15 pm

I know these ones fit:
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Re: Diesel Fuel Filter Problem

Post by Ian » Mon Jun 01, 2015 2:21 pm

It would appear that AVA Leisure (www.mazdabongo.com) who use the same suppliers (Solid) have had an identical problem. It is a manufacturing fault that only affects Solid filters with a part number on the box of M303006. It's a problem with a bad batch, and Solid are aware of it.

If you have bought one of these from the Bongo Shop, check the depth of the aperture. If it's less than 40mm, you have a bad one and it should be returned to us. Please enclose proof of purchase and we will issue you with a replacement and refund your postage costs.

If you have bought one of these filters from another retailer contact them direct.
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Re: Diesel Fuel Filter Problem

Post by terminallybewildered » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:27 pm

You will not believe this.

I ordered a replacement fuel filter from mazdabongo on the advice of Ian M. It's just arrived in the post. I took it out of the carton next to the 'faulty' one I got from the bongofury shop earlier AND that fuel filter has SPONTANEOUSLY created the required space for the sediment trap!

It's just been sitting on my garage bench for a few days and maybe the change in temperature (it's certainly not hot in my garage) has caused the internals to relax! What do you think of that? It's unbelievable but true. Here are the photos:

The new insert dimension:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/01doyumiolzdm ... 7.jpg?dl=0

The end-on view:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0vm9hah1xv3vv ... 8.jpg?dl=0
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Re: Diesel Fuel Filter Problem

Post by Gasy » Tue Jun 02, 2015 6:51 pm

Very strange
But I woudnt use it
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Re: Diesel Fuel Filter Problem

Post by teenmal » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:12 pm

Gasy wrote:Very strange
But I woudnt use it



Not that strange......they are now shoving the Tape Measure up the Wrong Hole/End.
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Re: Diesel Fuel Filter Problem

Post by terminallybewildered » Tue Jun 02, 2015 9:16 pm

teenmal wrote:
Gasy wrote:Very strange
But I woudnt use it



Not that strange......they are now shoving the Tape Measure up the Wrong Hole/End.

:oops: Yes, I'm ashamed to say. I've just posted this: Wondered why I'd chosen the name 'terminally bewildered'. You're right. Lost the plot already. Oh b****r. Will go and have a lie down now . . . . :oops:

Still, at least I didn't buy the replacement for nothing . . . .
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