2 Litre Starting

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2 Litre Starting

Post by maxi_77 » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:11 am

Our 2 litre Bongo is getting more reluctant to start. The present trick is to turn the switch to start and turn the engine over for a bit until it tries to start, then switch off and repeat, normally it then starts. It is then a bit sluggish until it reaches running temeperature when it behaves fine. Any subsequent starts during the day are fine.

Any suggestions other than buy a diesel Bongo
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Re: 2 Litre Starting

Post by terrybull » Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:04 pm

Sounds to me like the choke not working. My 2L starts on the first turnover every time, the method I use is to press accelerator once to set the choke then keep off the pedal when turning the key. I did have a starting problem when cold (during summer) but that was a battery issue which I'm sure you've checked.
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Re: 2 Litre Starting

Post by francophile1947 » Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:35 pm

terrybull wrote:Sounds to me like the choke not working.
Do they have a choke :? Thought they disappeared years ago - pre fuel injection :?
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Re: 2 Litre Starting

Post by mikeWalsall » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:26 am

Usually the ECU tells the injections system that it is cold ... so more fuel gets injected to give a richer mixture until things warm up..

One reason is maybe the temperature sensor is faulty and not sending the right info ..??
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Re: 2 Litre Starting

Post by teenmal » Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:37 pm

Hi,
It might be worthwhile checking the operation of the choke, and cleaning the choke sensor plug.

PS What country are you in.

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Re: 2 Litre Starting

Post by mikeWalsall » Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:49 pm

Usually injected engines do not have a choke ..the ECU tells the injections system that it is cold ... so more fuel gets injected to give a richer mixture until things warm up..

One reason is maybe the temperature sensor is faulty and not sending the right info ..??
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Re: 2 Litre Starting

Post by teenmal » Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:58 pm

mikeWalsall wrote:Usually injected engines do not have a choke ..the ECU tells the injections system that it is cold ... so more fuel gets injected to give a richer mixture until things warm up..

One reason is maybe the temperature sensor is faulty and not sending the right info ..??


Hi on these old vehicles it is called the Building Choke.This is the one on a v6.



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Re: 2 Litre Starting

Post by mikeWalsall » Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:21 pm

"The Building Choke" ... on the injection system ..

I must admit it is something I have never heard of.
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Re: 2 Litre Starting

Post by g8dhe » Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:39 pm

I must admit I am confused between what looks like a Choke and is called a Throttle (with a Throttle Position Sensor - TPS) on modern engines!
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Re: 2 Litre Starting

Post by Nevets » Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:54 am

mikeWalsall wrote:Usually the ECU tells the injections system that it is cold ... so more fuel gets injected to give a richer mixture until things warm up..

One reason is maybe the temperature sensor is faulty and not sending the right info ..??
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Re: 2 Litre Starting

Post by maxi_77 » Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:41 pm

Nevets wrote:
mikeWalsall wrote:Usually the ECU tells the injections system that it is cold ... so more fuel gets injected to give a richer mixture until things warm up..

One reason is maybe the temperature sensor is faulty and not sending the right info ..??
correct =D>
Any hints as to where the temperature sensor is?
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Re: 2 Litre Starting

Post by ginger colin » Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:40 pm

My 2.0 sometimes wanders up from 800rpm to 1200rpm. Then back down. Im looking for the sensor as well.
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Re: 2 Litre Starting

Post by mikeWalsall » Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:11 pm

The sencer numbers are ..18-840c ...... and 18-510 .. dunno where they are situtaed ... I would check around the water pump area ..

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