Brake Fluid Change. Which D is it? Planning a change soon

[mikeonb4c]

No factsheet (& I don't want to be accused of appointing myself as an expert, so I won't be doing one either) & no butchering for the gunsons eezibleed, just got to drill a 10mm hole in the cap & I've got a bung to go in once it's done (you can get a universal cap that clamps over any hole). I intend to force all the old stuff out & end up with an empty system as I may be removing callipers anyway & I want to know how much is in there.
Refill I think is just a matter of pumping it in using the eezibleed & the pressure from a tyre until it comes through the nipples without any air bubbles, starting at the furthest wheel, then once it's full I'll work around again to make sure. Simplez

Great advice & thanks - puts me at my ease for if/when I tackle it. Where did you get your universal reservoir cap from?

[missfixit70]

Unfortunately I didn't get a universal one (loads on ebay & the eezibleed itself was only £15 delivered ) I thought it'd be easy enough to drill the existing cap then reseal it afterwards, but I hadn't looked close enough at the venting channels in the cap It was just venting straight out so it's now sitting there with some silicon sealant curing that'll hopefully seal it, (peel it out afterwards, or maybe just put a vent hole in the bung that'll fill the hole afterwards) other wise it's back to finding a willing volunteer & fannying about the old way.
To make matters worse, the connector to clamp on to the tyre valve to provide the pressure to the eezibleed fell apart in my hands (Luckily had a spare in my junk box from a dead tyre compressor jobby) definitely a reverse midas day dodging between showers, hopefully tomorrow will be more productive & dryer but at least the EBC pads are the right ones (for the rear anyway) & I did get another job done that's been hanging around for months.

[mikeonb4c]

Unfortunately I didn't get a universal one (loads on ebay & the eezibleed itself was only £15 delivered ) I thought it'd be easy enough to drill the existing cap then reseal it afterwards, but I hadn't looked close enough at the venting channels in the cap It was just venting straight out so it's now sitting there with some silicon sealant curing that'll hopefully seal it, (peel it out afterwards, or maybe just put a vent hole in the bung that'll fill the hole afterwards) other wise it's back to finding a willing volunteer & fannying about the old way.
To make matters worse, the connector to clamp on to the tyre valve to provide the pressure to the eezibleed fell apart in my hands (Luckily had a spare in my junk box from a dead tyre compressor jobby) definitely a reverse midas day dodging between showers, hopefully tomorrow will be more productive & dryer but at least the EBC pads are the right ones (for the rear anyway) & I did get another job done that's been hanging around for months.

Right. Thats it. I'm putting the job on the back burner again

[eoptio]

Hi

I changed brake fluid on the Freda a couple of months ago, using DOT4 fluid (as per lubricants fact sheet) and (eventually) an Eezibleed kit with an universal adapter. It was bit tricky to get an airtight seal with the Eezibleed universal adapter kit but once that worked the bleeding was more or less straightforward. Went through quite a lot of brake fluid before finishing (tried without Eezibleed kit first) so would not know how much the system would take if getting it right first time

K

[missfixit70]

Good to know the universal adapter works ok, just hoping my Heath Robinson version works tomorrow

[missfixit70]

Not hugely impressed with the Eezibleed, worked once I siliconed in one of the supplied seal rings & an O-ring & left overnight to cure, but the valve connector fell apart, the tubing was too short on the bottle itself & the lengths they provide for bleeding the nipples are a joke. Worked ok once it was sealed, could do all four corners in a few minutes, but it was so much fannying about, I reckon the vacuum systems'd be better (if you've got access to a compressor), no fannying about trying to seal it then, just a quick suck on the bleed nipples.

Got the system emptied & refilled & the rear brakes stripped, cleaned up sprayed & reassembled (lots of bits of metal to transfer ) with the EBC Ultimax pads in, copper slip on studs & mating faces, quick "brake heavy" test run to bed in the brakes a bit.
Got the pads from http://www.ebcbrakesdirect.com, bit of hassle sorting out which ones to send as they panicked at the grey import bit, but we got there in the end, hopefully they'll be a bit more switched on to the bongo if anyone else orders,
Rears were part no. DP740, Fronts DP1121, £58.62 all in with delivery
Label for rears


Fronts


Fronts at the top, rears (smaller but more expensive) at the bottom


Can't really comment on whether there's much difference in braking, but I didn't have a problem before I did them, just wanted to be sure the fluid was fresh & clean, the rear pads only had a mm or two left on them though. Was hoping to get the fronts done but needed it to be boxed up & driveable for the morning to get down to Aldi Front pads have got loads left anyway.

[mikeonb4c]

Thanks Kirsty - v. useful report. Oh dear, sounds like my Eazibleed kit won't be getting used. Id not heard of the vacuum device, and I do have a compressor. Could you point me to where you can buy these just in case I get tempted. I suppose the job is then a 1-person doddle?

[missfixit70]

Thanks Kirsty - v. useful report. Oh dear, sounds like my Eazibleed kit won't be getting used. Id not heard of the vacuum device, and I do have a compressor. Could you point me to where you can buy these just in case I get tempted. I suppose the job is then a 1-person doddle?

Just try doing a search on vacuum brake bleed kits, I can't recommend cos I ain't got one

[mikeonb4c]

Thanks Kirsty - v. useful report. Oh dear, sounds like my Eazibleed kit won't be getting used. Id not heard of the vacuum device, and I do have a compressor. Could you point me to where you can buy these just in case I get tempted. I suppose the job is then a 1-person doddle?

Just try doing a search on vacuum brake bleed kits, I can't recommend cos I ain't got one

will do - ta

[missfixit70]

Typical, looked all over for EBC pads, now they've appeared even cheaper on fleabay - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MAZDA-BONGO-95-03 ... 439df9da07
£44.46 + postage & they say they'll reduce postage for multiple purchases, so it may only cost around £50 all round.

From http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/rapid_car_parts/

[helen&tony]

Hi
Mike
Try Sealey equipment...various models, and not badly priced...I can send a link if you like, to a company I buy from, and I have seen some stuff similar on e-bay, but beware....make sure your compressor has the right output....but they are a doddle to use if you find the right one!
Cheers
Helen

[mikeonb4c]

Hi
Mike
Try Sealey equipment...various models, and not badly priced...I can send a link if you like, to a company I buy from, and I have seen some stuff similar on e-bay, but beware....make sure your compressor has the right output....but they are a doddle to use if you find the right one!
Cheers
Helen

Thanks Helen. I'm about to have a search but any link info you have would be great

[helen&tony]

Hi Mike
PM sent
Cheers
Helen

[B*Witched Blingo]

Hiya Mike

Ady bought a Vacuum system Sykes Pickavant model number 03480000. Stocked at a good quality motor factors. Just under £40, but we think the wrong price was given as wrong item is on the invoice. Ady thought it was a nice piece of kit which works very well. Operates at 70/170 psi input.

www.sptools.co.uk

Based at Cannock if that helps.

Ady might want to play with more brakes if that's any help to you. Cos if it ends up in the back of his garage, it will never see the light of day again . Could empty and full bleed system in under an hour. But took six hours to do a full strip, full reshoe and clean and copper slip. He even painted the hubs and calipers in heat proof paint (snob)

Hope that helps

Ady

(typed by Chell, cause he can't)

[mikeonb4c]

Hiya Mike

Ady bought a Vacuum system Sykes Pickavant model number 03480000. Stocked at a good quality motor factors. Just under £40, but we think the wrong price was given as wrong item is on the invoice. Ady thought it was a nice piece of kit which works very well. Operates at 70/170 psi input.

http://www.sptools.co.uk

Based at Cannock if that helps.

Ady might want to play with more brakes if that's any help to you. Cos if it ends up in the back of his garage, it will never see the light of day again . Could empty and full bleed system in under an hour. But took six hours to do a full strip, full reshoe and clean and copper slip. He even painted the hubs and calipers in heat proof paint (snob)

Hope that helps

Ady

(typed by Chell, cause he can't)

Handy things husbands (somebody tell my wife )

I reckon that if I get round to it at all, I'll offer Will a tenner to be a pedal pumper and reservoir filler. All this technology befuddles me and I've not bled a set of brakes in 30+yrs