Winter pack removal

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Winter pack removal

Post by stilldesperate » Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:32 am

Have done a quick search, but can't find a post on removing the winter pack gubbins. I'm wondering about the pipework - what needs blanking, Vs what needs connecting together :?

When I remove the bits from under the passenger seat, would a new section of exhaust, without the valve, fit on?

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Re: Winter pack removal

Post by mister munkey » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:02 am

Its the Exhaust Gas Recirculation valve that can play up.

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http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... 43&t=14463

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Re: Winter pack removal

Post by haydn callow » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:31 am

The EGR is not part of the "winter"pack...I belive all diesels have that fitted.
I think the Exaust "valve" is what is being refered to. This can be removed and a new bit of exaust fitted which is a bit longer than standard to make up the "extra space"
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Re: Winter pack removal

Post by mister munkey » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:08 am

I see, me confusing the EGR with the gubbins at the other end of the "cold start" switch . . .


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Re: Winter pack removal

Post by stilldesperate » Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:02 pm

Thanks, Mr M, it is the winter pack bits I need to take out, I'm putting a diesel heater in the space, now that "summers'" here :lol: :lol:


Haydn, I'm wondering if the exhaust section from a Bongo without the valve has that extra few inches of length (Ohh err Misus!). Might have a crawl under Yorkshirelass' on my way to work!

It's not high on the list of jobs, I'm sure it'll run OK just with the control box under the seat removed, there's what I think is a vacuum pipe to disconnect - anyone suggest what to do with it :shock:

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Re: Winter pack removal

Post by Skydiver » Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:20 pm

I'm watching with interest as I have the same plan in mind, same winter pack valve is right in the place were heater is going under passenger seat.
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Re: Winter pack removal

Post by stilldesperate » Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:01 pm

There's a good set of photo's on site to fit it once the packs off - sure someones done it on here :wink:
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Re: Winter pack removal

Post by waycar8 » Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:57 pm

heres the pictures of Dandywarhols eberspacher fitting if this is what you mean :wink: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v641/ ... erspacher/
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Re: Winter pack removal

Post by stilldesperate » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:15 pm

Dem's de ones :D
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Re: Winter pack removal

Post by Veero » Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:15 am

How much fuel do these diesel heaters use?
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Re: Winter pack removal

Post by haydn callow » Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:25 am

Not much at all....I just find them a bit noisy.
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Re: Winter pack removal

Post by stilldesperate » Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:43 am

On the boats in the marina's, the most noise seems to be outside, via the exhaust. I'm looking at fitting the silencer unit as well.

I also don't tend to use busy campsites, where it might be a nuisance.

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Re: Winter pack removal

Post by Rhod » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:52 pm

stilldesperate wrote:
It's not high on the list of jobs, I'm sure it'll run OK just with the control box under the seat removed, there's what I think is a vacuum pipe to disconnect - anyone suggest what to do with it :shock:

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The winter pack on mine doesn't work (I tried it before I read about the danger of the valve sticking on!), but one of the rubber vacuum pipes has been disconnected (will have to have a look to check which one) & there are no effects on the rest of the running of the van.

I'm planning on removing mine at some point, to fit a heater, but haven't quite summoned up the courage to cut the metal pipe yet... Partly in case something flows out of it that I'm not expecting & partly because I'm not sure how to seal the cut end off. I was thinking that folding the end back on itself & crimping it securely should do it, but would welcome any other suggestions :)

Don't think I should be spending anymore on the Bongo until I can find someone to weld up the small rust holes in the front sills anyway & ensure that it passes its next MOT........
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Re: Winter pack removal

Post by Simon Jones » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:12 pm

Although I've not removed one personally, you will probably find a rubber tube going to a metal pipe in front of the plastic cambelt cover. This is the vacuum pipe that I believe 'powers' the exhaust valve. That pipe is often used to link up to the Waeco MS50 cruise control unit. When you remove the pipe, you must block the end otherwise the vacuum to the brake servo will be affected.

BTW, I'm shortly upgrading my Eberspacher D1LC diesel heater to a newer D2, so there will be a spare on going on the For Sale page.
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Re: Winter pack removal

Post by missfixit70 » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:30 pm

Could be interested Simon :-k Why the upgrade?
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