cigarette lighter sockets - thicker cable

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Re: cigarette lighter sockets - thicker cable

Post by patnben » Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:26 am

Quality caravans use a CLIPSAL architrave 12V flush socket which
can replace the ciggy lighter socket. They are perfectly reliable up
to 10 Amps (120 Watts) continuously. The matching plugs are not
fused and should be fused elsewhere. Small, neat, and easily wired.
Available from most caravan accessory shops.

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Re: cigarette lighter sockets - thicker cable

Post by moonshine » Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:49 am

madmile wrote:
rabbitsquasher wrote:you'll know fairly soon if they're up to the job or not! I would recommend 12v outlets for the draw you're requiring, 35 amps is a lot, of course, you may not be actually drawing that much.... I used to be in the trade, I once fitted some ordinary sockets to a Jeep cherokee to run a docs defribulator (did i spell that right?!!) (you know what i meant!) first use made a nice hole in the plastic surround! That was 20A.

It's 12 years ago but the memory has stuck firmly!
Its 35watts - not 35 amps, so in real terms only about 2.9 amps. A compressor coolbox /fridge is not a particularly big power draw, but its better to give yourself more capacity if its not much more money.
Just to add to Madmile's advice, even though the current draw is only 2.9 amps, if the cable run is more than about 1.5mtrs, it is better to use cable with a rating far in excess of 2.9 amps to avoid voltage drop. Fridges in particular are sensitive to voltage drop and many of them will switch off if the battery voltage drops too low. If the cable used is too thin, the voltage arriving at the fridge will be lower than the voltage at the battery, so the fridge will switch off unneccarily.
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Re: cigarette lighter sockets - thicker cable

Post by vanvliet » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:13 am

patnben wrote:Quality caravans use a CLIPSAL architrave 12V flush socket which
can replace the ciggy lighter socket. They are perfectly reliable up
to 10 Amps (120 Watts) continuously. The matching plugs are not
fused and should be fused elsewhere. Small, neat, and easily wired.
Available from most caravan accessory shops.

Shown here:

http://www.towsure.co.uk

Search for E615
The plug is E610
OK ,this is the sort of thing I will fit but, michty me, these are ugly looking blighters .Is a nice discreet round socket available? Beige and an odd shape does not appeal ( I know that asthetics should not come into it but for me it has to look right or it will bug me)
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Re: cigarette lighter sockets - thicker cable

Post by daveblueozzie » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:56 am

ebay item number, i have these in my bongo. i used 30amp (i think) wire connected to my leisure battery via a seperate fuse box.

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Re: cigarette lighter sockets - thicker cable

Post by vanvliet » Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:16 am

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:Nt ... clnk&gl=uk


This looks the biz but cant find a UK supplier
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Re: cigarette lighter sockets - thicker cable

Post by dandywarhol » Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:36 am

Have you tried Dingbro Geoff?
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Re: cigarette lighter sockets - thicker cable

Post by g8dhe » Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:18 pm

dandywarhol wrote:Have you tried Dingbro Geoff?
Nope ? Quite a few companies turn up with that name ... mainly in Scotland (I wonder what the name means ?).
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Re: cigarette lighter sockets - thicker cable

Post by dandywarhol » Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:31 pm

lol - wrong Geoff - I was asking vanvleit :lol:

Ding Brothers, originated in Aberdeen
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Re: cigarette lighter sockets - thicker cable

Post by teenmal » Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:04 pm

dandywarhol wrote:lol - wrong Geoff - I was asking vanvleit :lol:

Ding Brothers, originated in Aberdeen
The firm was started by Dingwall Brothers.

For Fife,,

Kirkcaldy
Address: 5 Merchant Place, Michelston Industrial Estate
City: Kirkcaldy
Post Code: KY1 3NJ
Tel: 01592 654212
Fax: 01592 653989
Email: [email protected]
Dave Gourlay - Branch Manager
Derek Schofield - Deputy Branch Manager

Ps they are trade only :wink:
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Re: cigarette lighter sockets - thicker cable

Post by vanvliet » Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:20 pm

Geoff means ' god's peace' :)
Will check out Dingbro for the socket
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Re: cigarette lighter sockets - thicker cable

Post by g8dhe » Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:30 pm

Ah ha I must admit I was bemused, but being the only person who signed using Geoff....
Did you know there's even 22 variants of Geoff as well;
Geffrey, Geoff, Geoffery, Geoffroy, Geoffry, Geofrey, Jefery, Jeff, Jefferey, Jefferies, Jeffery, Jeffree, Jeffrey, Jeffry, Jeffrie, Jeffries, Jefry, Jeoffrol, Jephers, Jepherson, Jephrey and Jephry
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Re: cigarette lighter sockets - thicker cable

Post by vanvliet » Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:42 am

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Re: cigarette lighter sockets - thicker cable

Post by daveblueozzie » Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:26 pm

g8dhe wrote:Ah ha I must admit I was bemused, but being the only person who signed using Geoff....
Did you know there's even 22 variants of Geoff as well;
Geffrey, Geoff, Geoffery, Geoffroy, Geoffry, Geofrey, Jefery, Jeff, Jefferey, Jefferies, Jeffery, Jeffree, Jeffrey, Jeffry, Jeffrie, Jeffries, Jefry, Jeoffrol, Jephers, Jepherson, Jephrey and Jephry
:lol: :lol: :lol:
TALK ABOUT OFF MESSAGE, WAY OFF MESSAGE #-o :lol: :shock:
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Re: cigarette lighter sockets - thicker cable

Post by vanvliet » Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:54 pm

Hey , I found it interesting!
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Re: cigarette lighter sockets - thicker cable

Post by rabbitsquasher » Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:45 pm

in that case the ordinary 8a cable with in line fuse with original sockets should suffice... I just rewired mine from the leisure battery circuit in the rear to provide a feed for the bottle warmer for Jackson. Our wild camp in scotland was great, but when Jackson woke at 3am and we needed a warm bottle, having to empty everything from the front to switch the ignition on was a right mission!
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