Techie lecky starting problem.

[jaylee]

A couple of weeks ago (coming back from Woodlands) my remote central locking started playing up then stopped all together, though the alarm would set.
The factory manual CL part is fine..
I checked all the connections to the system & found nothing wrong apart from about 10 volts consistently sent along the aux wire to the remote CL unit from the alarm head & a similar voltage to the two wires going to the actuator..?

The immobilizer bit is NOT connected...

Then the head unit stopped working, i could only plip it if i had the fob right next to the box..
Fob battery was fine i tried my second fob no joy.!
I disconnected the alarm & made an earth strap in an attempt to reset the alarm thinking the chip could have froze (the red led warning stayed on constantly) i also tried an old trick of disconnecting the earth on the battery & turning the ignition which did help the alarm when i reconnected the battery, but not the remote CL also when arming the panel lights on the dash lit (like it does when you wait for the glow plugs) up with the indicators, it didn't look good.
While all this was happening the voltage appeared to drop in the alarm system to about 3volts.

One minute it looks like a fault in the alarm head, next in the actuator control...?
So, i disconnected the alarm completely..

Now yesterday i appeared to have a flat battery & i couldn't start the vehicle, lucky i can walk to work..
Today i planned jump starting the vehicle, however the battery has a new lease of life, but on turn over all i get is a fast clicking & a whoooah/ whoosh noise.
When i let go of the ignition it caries on clicking till i turn off.

So, thinking there could be a short somewhere due to some odd readings on the alarm voltage & the weird starting thing, i have disconnected the live terminal on the battery in the paranoia it don't start a fire!!

Any ideas?

[jaylee]

OK, Now the symptoms have changed...
Turning the key to the 2nd position to wait for the glow plug light to go out i get a clicking noise i got on the start up & the fans come on. (not the heaters) i haven't used the van for a few days...
The only thing i've done to the ignition system is attach two wires to stop the alarm & window closure module operating when the engine is running that was beginning of the year!
The Mason alarm chirps when i flash main beam too.

It has had a top hose done just before Woodlands, could some thing had come unplugged or shorted in that aria..?

What's the crack..?

[bigdaddycain]

It would appear that one's battery is depleted jamie, The clicking is the solenoid on the starter motor opening and closing due to insufficient current.

The fluctuation in the battery's health may go some way to explaining the quirks you have experienced with the alarm system of late.

[jaylee]

Thanks fer that ste, there does seem to be a fluctuation on the currant from the battery.
I must admit a few weeks back & at Woodlands when starting the van though start up strong & healthy the central locking system would act erratic while cranking up or initial tick over. (open & close).

This week i'm going crazy!!

[jaylee]

The next question is... (Bearing in mind i've never had any real issues with the vehicle in 18 months of ownership) What sort of battery should i go for...?
My currant defunct battery is labelled in Japanese the only clue i got to go on is GR2 75D33L.
The trusted suppliers i phone round have no Bongo listed to help with my enquires.

Thanks in advance, the BF search tends to lead me to leisure battery topics..

[francophile1947]

From the compatible parts thread at the top of the Techie section
Battery (105ah) Motaquip VBZ44 Land Rover Discovery

[jaylee]

From the compatible parts thread at the top of the Techie section
Battery (105ah) Motaquip VBZ44 Land Rover Discovery

Cheers fer the information.
Gives me something to go on.


I found this no help at all..
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PycjHNWe01A
... Though quite entertaining!

[bigdaddycain]

Thanks fer that ste, there does seem to be a fluctuation on the currant from the battery.
I must admit a few weeks back & at Woodlands when starting the van though start up strong & healthy the central locking system would act erratic while cranking up or initial tick over. (open & close).

This week i'm going crazy!!

Top hole old bean, does one have a whiteish deposit around one's terminals on the aforementioned battery my good man? If so get one's butler to boil (i think it's called a kettle) and pour the boling water on the terminals to remove the deposits, then apply some copper grease to the battery posts. and re-attach the terminals with another smear of copper grease on the outside of one's terminals for good measure....

Then retire to one's study, and enjoy a fine port in front of one's roaring log fire what what.

[francophile1947]

One is a trifle confused by the recent postings by young Stephen Methinks that, perchance, he may have discovered the elixir of poshness. One will have to get Jeeves to investigate this phenomenon.

[jaylee]

My dear chap,
The battery terminals are cleaner than a sufferers hands with Compulsive Obsessive Disorder.
I cant start the van due to symptoms above, i thought i may have run it down during my rigorous circuit checks of the alarm & remote CL..
I haven't driven it since last week end & decided to sort the initial alarm problem out the other day.
Its like the vehicles electrics have a Bipolar disorder...

Then retire to one's study, and enjoy a fine port in front of one's roaring log fire

I just got the central heating fixed.. I'm planning a Jedi funeral if it ain't the battery!!

[bigdaddycain]

One is a trifle confused by the recent postings by young Stephen Methinks that, perchance, he may have discovered the elixir of poshness. One will have to get Jeeves to investigate this phenomenon.

Yip, yip, one's realization of the finer side of life is most fulfilling, One now uses a handkerchief to itch one's royal botty,most gratifying in a yip yip what what manner. (or should one say manor? Did you hear one make a funny?)

[bigdaddycain]

My dear chap,
The battery terminals are cleaner than a sufferers hands with Compulsive Obsessive Disorder.
I cant start the van due to symptoms above, i thought i may have run it down during my rigorous circuit checks of the alarm & remote CL..
I haven't driven it since last week end & decided to sort the initial alarm problem out the other day.
Its like the vehicles electrics have a Bipolar disorder...

Then retire to one's study, and enjoy a fine port in front of one's roaring log fire

I just got the central heating fixed.. I'm planning a Jedi funeral if it ain't the battery!!

Has one sent the chaps in charge of the motor pool to charge one's battery?

[jaylee]

My dear chap,
The battery terminals are cleaner than a sufferers hands with Compulsive Obsessive Disorder.
I cant start the van due to symptoms above, i thought i may have run it down during my rigorous circuit checks of the alarm & remote CL..
I haven't driven it since last week end & decided to sort the initial alarm problem out the other day.
Its like the vehicles electrics have a Bipolar disorder...

Then retire to one's study, and enjoy a fine port in front of one's roaring log fire

I just got the central heating fixed.. I'm planning a Jedi funeral if it ain't the battery!!

Has one sent the chaps in charge of the motor pool to charge one's battery?

I don't the hedonist luxury of a charger Mr Cain, the next chance i get to play with this will be Saturday, when i plan to cordially invite my good lady to don the racing tweed, position her auto mobile adjacent to mine under the watchful eye of a chaperone of course..!
instigate a union of battery's (in the best possible taste, naturally.) & give it an Edison hand shake!!

[bigdaddycain]

A jumpstart then me old mucker? ...Er, i mean, quite, that sounds to be an eloquent manner of instigating the ignition of one's noble black chariot,otherwise, another form of conveyance might be the done thing in order for you and your dear lady friend to purvey the finest wares of one's local quaint eating establishments.

[jaylee]

A jumpstart then me old mucker? ...Er, i mean, quite, that sounds to be an eloquent manner of instigating the ignition of one's noble black chariot,otherwise, another form of conveyance might be the done thing in order for you and your dear lady friend to purvey the finest wares of one's local quaint eating establishments.

What, a Nissan Micra to the local drive through...?