Split charge relay

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Split charge relay

Post by Em&Drew » Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:26 pm

I wonder if anyone can give me some advice. I had booked my dual battery Bongo in to have a split charge relay fitted with a local auto electrical firm. However they are saying that there usual supplier is to struggling to source one. Willington doesn't seem to have any kits available on e-bay right now so I was wondering if anyone knows of a decent alternative supplier.

I am travelling from Hull to Zeebrugger on Sun for 3 weeks camping, so I'm getting a bit desperate!

Thanks

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Re: Split charge relay

Post by thedogsbollox » Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:47 pm

If you are desperate you can obtain the relay on its own easily enough
http://www.instructables.com/id/Fitting ... zda-Bongo/
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Smart-12s-Switchi ... dZViewItem
You can get a complete description of what is needed and how to fit it all here
http://www.instructables.com/id/Fitting ... zda-Bongo/
If you are getting an autospark to do it then he will have no probs understanding it.
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Re: Split charge relay

Post by corblimey » Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:14 pm

The BEP marine VSR is quite good value.

You can see one here http://www.power-store.com/?id=196

but buy somewhere cheaper, like here http://www.marinemegastore.com/product. ... =0&cat_id=

I tried looking on the BEP website but it's not respondning and Google has listed as a security risk so take care if you try to view it
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Re: Split charge relay

Post by stringman » Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:41 pm

I know a really good mobile auto electrician in Warrington. Give me a shout if you'd like his details as knowing him he's probably got all you need in the back of his van

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Re: Split charge relay

Post by stringman » Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:36 pm

Just sent you a pm, I think you'r already using the guy I was recommending.

Any way, just found this on e bay that will be just the job:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/30A-SPLIT-CHARGE- ... 286.c0.m14
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Re: Split charge relay

Post by Em&Drew » Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:42 pm

Thanks Steve

Ill order it this evening!

Cheers Andrew
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Re: Split charge relay

Post by missfixit70 » Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:51 pm

Or email willinton via ebay, he may not have got around to listing, it's what I did.
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Re: Split charge relay

Post by Em&Drew » Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:40 pm

I'm Just wondering if the 30amp relay on e-bay will be adequate Willingtons say they are 100amp. Any thoughts ?
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Re: Split charge relay

Post by Cloughy » Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:33 pm

Hi,

I fitted the 100A relay with 50A fuses and made up leads from parts - it's a hassle but it worked for me.
From what I can see this is the right one:

http://www.rawcomponents.co.uk/100-amp- ... -144-p.asp

the company supply the parts as well I think.

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Re: Split charge relay

Post by moonshine » Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:37 pm

60amp is the absolute minimum I would ever consider using. 100amp is best I think. 30amp is likely to melt if your battery is low, and your alternator starts pushing out 45amps or more.

http://www.rawcomponents.co.uk/100-amp- ... -144-p.asp , as cloughy says.

I've recently bought one of those for my boat.

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Re: Split charge relay

Post by corblimey » Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:01 pm

Correct me if I'm wrong but the Nagares relay isn't voltage sensing.

As missfixit says, try emailing willinton via ebay.

If you can 't get one of those go and want to get the job done with minimum fuss in time for your hols get a BEP.

If the BEP is too expensive buy a TEM3m and use it to energise the Nagares (or similar high current relay) like the one Cloughy and Moonshine are refering to. Details can be found here http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... r&start=15 (Page 2, 6th post from the bottom). By the time your sparky has added the extra wiring / parts etc I'm sure the BEP woould have paid for itself!
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Re: Split charge relay

Post by Simon Jones » Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:10 am

I think willinton modifies the Nagares relay to make it voltage sensing. He had 2 on ebay earlier this evening: I bought one & the other one seemed to vanish too. definitely worth dropping him a message if you are still interested.
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Re: Split charge relay

Post by corblimey » Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:06 am

Your right Simon, Willinton does modify the Nagares. If you buy one from anywhere else it won't do any voltage sensing.
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Re: Split charge relay

Post by Em&Drew » Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:52 am

I ordered the Willington in the end, not cheap but hopefully worth it.

Thanks for all the advice folks.
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