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Wheel nuts

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:37 pm
by Eratosthenes
I have a v6 year 2000 fitted with alloy wheels.
If I am to get a set of steel wheels for the winter, will the existing wheel nuts be suitable.
If not, any pointers where to get some from.

Re: Wheel nuts

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:47 pm
by Bob
They are most likely different, not sure if Mazda original alloys use the same nuts, and I guess any of the breakers will have them.

Bongo Spares... 8)

Re: Wheel nuts

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:05 pm
by g8dhe
No there not suitable the chamfer angle is different between steel and alloys.

Re: Wheel nuts

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:12 pm
by Eratosthenes
Thanks both for the replies.

Re: Wheel nuts

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:03 pm
by Eratosthenes
That's got me thinking now. Although I changed my skinny spare for a steel, I never considered that the alloy nuts wouldn't fit!

Re: Wheel nuts

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:09 pm
by mikeonb4c
Eratosthenes wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:03 pm That's got me thinking now. Although I changed my skinny spare for a steel, I never considered that the alloy nuts wouldn't fit!
Hmmmm - I've been in the same predicament for years. I suspect (though perhaps techies can confirm) that for limited miles and where common sense is used it'd be ok to use the steel spare with the alloy's wheel nuts.

Re: Wheel nuts

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:33 am
by teenmal
Eratosthenes wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:03 pm That's got me thinking now. Although I changed my skinny spare for a steel, I never considered that the alloy nuts wouldn't fit!


Check the profile of the nuts,I would be surprised (if you have Mazda alloys) that the nuts were different profile for steel wheels.

Re: Wheel nuts

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:46 pm
by Eratosthenes
teenmal wrote: Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:33 am
Eratosthenes wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:03 pm That's got me thinking now. Although I changed my skinny spare for a steel, I never considered that the alloy nuts wouldn't fit!


Check the profile of the nuts,I would be surprised (if you have Mazda alloys) that the nuts were different profile for steel wheels.
Thanks for the post.
The alloys on my Bongo were on when imported. They have a Mazda logo on the centre cap and I have seen them on other Bongos and have assumed they were original. When the weather calms down a bit, I will remove a nut and match it to the steel spare ( a Mazda one) and to the steels I should receive next week. I will come back with my findings.

Re: Wheel nuts

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:02 pm
by mikeonb4c
teenmal wrote: Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:33 am
Eratosthenes wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:03 pm That's got me thinking now. Although I changed my skinny spare for a steel, I never considered that the alloy nuts wouldn't fit!


Check the profile of the nuts,I would be surprised (if you have Mazda alloys) that the nuts were different profile for steel wheels.
That makes a great deal of sense. The wheelnut thing has floated about for years but surely if Mazda have offered Bongos with alloys and a steel skinny spare then the same wheelnuts should work on all wheels at least in those cases.

Re: Wheel nuts

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:59 am
by nth
Not sure about the Bongo as i dont have alloys but some manufacturers (Mercedes & Renalt are the 2 that spring to mind first) use different bolts for some of there spare wheels. Many Merc models use shorter bolts for the spare & many Renults use fixed bolts instead of ones with floating washers for the spare. I would have thought it to be very unusual to use nuts with different taper angles though.

Re: Wheel nuts

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:38 pm
by Eratosthenes
teenmal wrote: Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:33 am
Eratosthenes wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:03 pm That's got me thinking now. Although I changed my skinny spare for a steel, I never considered that the alloy nuts wouldn't fit!


Check the profile of the nuts,I would be surprised (if you have Mazda alloys) that the nuts were different profile for steel wheels.
Just an update, as Teenmal thought, the wheel nuts for the Mazda Alloys do fit the steels fine. Got the wheels balanced and swapped today.

Re: Wheel nuts

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:52 pm
by Bob
Useful update, thanks. 8)

Re: Wheel nuts

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:55 pm
by g8dhe
Interesting, others in the past have found they don't fit, maybe they weren't Mazda wheels.

Re: Wheel nuts

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:10 pm
by Eratosthenes
Just out of interest, the hole for the nut on the skinny spare was identical to the steels.
Thanks for the comments and input.