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fuel cleaners and additives info

Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:20 pm
by Northern Bongolow
some useful reading,could be handy for the egr and variable vane turbos as well as the injection systems.

http://www.oilem.com/archoil-ar6400-and ... GwodBEQAIw

Re: fuel cleaners and additives info

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:01 pm
by Tony x
Thanks for the info - useful stuff

Re: fuel cleaners and additives info

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:53 pm
by BongoBongo123
I am a believer, all hail the additives. Millers works for me (see sig and search it, hard to find a bad word said about it 10 tanks treatment from 1 bottle 1), used in petrol car and diesel Bongo. Quieter and smoother running, improved throttle response, no downsides that I am aware of.

It is a bit like putting Supreme Diesel or Super unleaded in but a lot less expensive way of doing it.

(My petrol car just shaved by the emissions test 2 years ago, 1 year of millers tanks later, went through with a very significant safety margin, must be doing good things for efficiency and emissions cleanliness)

Re: fuel cleaners and additives info

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:30 pm
by rita
BB123,just noticed that you vehicle can return 43MPG.

As a matter of interest is the EGR valve still functional or has it been blanked off .

mikeonb4c If you are reading this could I ask you the same question.

Re: fuel cleaners and additives info

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:15 pm
by mikeonb4c
rita wrote:BB123,just noticed that you vehicle can return 43MPG.

As a matter of interest is the EGR valve still functional or has it been blanked off .

mikeonb4c If you are reading this could I ask you the same question.
My egr is not blanked off :-)

Re: fuel cleaners and additives info

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 7:47 pm
by rita
mikeonb4c wrote:
rita wrote:BB123,just noticed that you vehicle can return 43MPG.

As a matter of interest is the EGR valve still functional or has it been blanked off .

mikeonb4c If you are reading this could I ask you the same question.
My egr is not blanked off :-)

Thanks..

Re: fuel cleaners and additives info

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:47 am
by BongoBongo123
rita wrote:BB123,just noticed that you vehicle can return 43MPG.

As a matter of interest is the EGR valve still functional or has it been blanked off .

mikeonb4c If you are reading this could I ask you the same question.
In my ignorance I am not sure where it is. (There is a lot of stuff down there :lol: ) Would you be able to show us a photo of where it is please and I can respond after a check.

Re: fuel cleaners and additives info

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:14 am
by al & chris
We have been using millers for the past year and I think it does make a difference. Engine does feel to run smoother and quieter. Not sure on economy have not checked that recently. We are 4wd diesel and always averaged around 24 mpg.

Re: fuel cleaners and additives info

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:40 am
by cmm303
BongoBongo123 wrote:
rita wrote:BB123,just noticed that you vehicle can return 43MPG.

As a matter of interest is the EGR valve still functional or has it been blanked off .

mikeonb4c If you are reading this could I ask you the same question.
In my ignorance I am not sure where it is. (There is a lot of stuff down there :lol: ) Would you be able to show us a photo of where it is please and I can respond after a check.
not necessarily easy to see as typically a washer/gasket is simply replaced by a blanking plate.
Here is obvious evidence (blue sealant) of "tampering" (= EGR blanking by me) at the inlet manifold end of the EGR pipe where it joins the manifold elbow. The blanking plate is brighter than the gasket it replaced.

Image

The other end of the EGR pipe (the curvy one in the pic) is a little more buried but is blanked off exactly the same way. It does not have to be blanked at both ends.

Re: fuel cleaners and additives info

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:01 pm
by Bob
Allan, Plymouth, does these plates for a very fair price. :wink:

Re: fuel cleaners and additives info

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:28 pm
by cmm303
Bob wrote:Allan, Plymouth, does these plates for a very fair price. :wink:
with nice instruction sheet as well. Anybody doing the job just needs to go carefully with the bolts into the inlet manifold elbow, in which the threads strip oh so easily.

Re: fuel cleaners and additives info

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 6:48 pm
by BongoBongo123
Next time I have that side open I will photograph it, looks like glow plug/driver side.

After reading this...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhaust_gas_recirculation

I kind of hope mine is in tact. Not bothered about power, I poodle along generally (and have never felt the Bongo is under powered, in fact the opposite, loads) and prefer to pollute less if possible. I guess if you blank it off you get full oxygen input, higher temps and thus more NO2. Nitrogen Dioxide which are giving diesels a bad name right now as it is carcinogenic.

Is that reasoning about right ?

Re: fuel cleaners and additives info

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:00 am
by cmm303
BongoBongo123 wrote:Next time I have that side open I will photograph it, looks like glow plug/driver side.

After reading this...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhaust_gas_recirculation

I kind of hope mine is in tact. Not bothered about power, I poodle along generally (and have never felt the Bongo is under powered, in fact the opposite, loads) and prefer to pollute less if possible. I guess if you blank it off you get full oxygen input, higher temps and thus more NO2. Nitrogen Dioxide which are giving diesels a bad name right now as it is carcinogenic.

Is that reasoning about right ?
yes all round!
Drivers side.
EGR lowers combustion temp, reducing NOx

The lower combustion temp is less efficient but efficiency is something your Bongo stars at!

Re: fuel cleaners and additives info

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:03 pm
by philpdr
Would there be any point/problems using something like Millers when running with a veg oil mix?

Re: fuel cleaners and additives info

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:50 pm
by Northern Bongolow
this is a good site if your into blending fuel, and it has additives,

https://www.oilybits.com/additives-for-fuels.html.

they seem to sell special additives for bio blends etc.

https://www.oilybits.com/vplus7-multi-f ... itive.html