Anybody recognise this module ???

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Anybody recognise this module ???

Post by g8dhe » Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:03 pm

Does anybody recognise this module, if so where is it physically located and any idea of which year it might be from ?
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Re: Anybody recognise this module ???

Post by Simon Jones » Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:58 pm

Looks like the one in the sliding door.
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Re: Anybody recognise this module ???

Post by g8dhe » Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:05 pm

That was the only location I could come up with, trouble is the board has been glued into the case and I can't see a way of getting it out without destroying the case at present :-( However there isn't much info on the wiring diagrams to confirm it. Didn't want to do that and then find it wasn't anything relevant!
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Re: Anybody recognise this module ???

Post by g8dhe » Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:56 pm

Yea, found it its in the pillar infront of the sliding door found some photo's that stuc put up a while back.
http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... 50#p483550
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Right all I have to sort now is how to release the darn glue, Evostick-like, from the grooves which the board slides into within the case - anybody have any suggestions ?
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Re: Anybody recognise this module ???

Post by jimmo62 » Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:03 pm

Would this be any use?
http://www.bostik.co.uk/diy/product/evo ... leaner/114

Have not tried it myself but may be worth a go?
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Re: Anybody recognise this module ???

Post by g8dhe » Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:13 pm

That looks promising, ouch the price £6-7 a 250ml can :-( Lets see if I can find some locally.....
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Re: Anybody recognise this module ???

Post by jimmo62 » Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:20 pm

And it's in stock in B&Q Worthing!
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Re: Anybody recognise this module ???

Post by g8dhe » Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:25 pm

It is indeed I think a visit tomorrow is called for!
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Re: Anybody recognise this module ???

Post by g8dhe » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:50 pm

Yea excellent stuff, works very well indeed, after dripping the solvent down the edges of the board for about an hour it softened the glue sufficiently to be pulled from the case.
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Now to reverse engineer the board!
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Re: Anybody recognise this module ???

Post by Idris » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:23 pm

g8dhe wrote:Yea excellent stuff, works very well indeed, after dripping the solvent down the edges of the board for about an hour it softened the glue sufficiently to be pulled from the case.
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Now to reverse engineer the board!
Doesn't look too bad - if you can read the IC's - but what does it do? there is a fair chance whatever it does can be done with a lot less - lots of electonics are built with ease of manufacture and component sourcing in mind, not efficiency of design.
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Re: Anybody recognise this module ???

Post by g8dhe » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:38 pm

It controls the sliding door closure mechanism, and child lock! For that there is a dual relay and an 8-bit micro and a couple of other bits of glue logic plus a few transistors. It is indeed overkill but for something designed 15 years ago not that surprising and as you say they are reusing parts from other vehicles and minimising the number of different components.
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Re: Anybody recognise this module ???

Post by hijimhere » Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:30 pm

Found the part number on a German site (cost 200 Euros) just describes it as a power unit!!!! Recentlu found a company that can repair PCBs - ok they did my dishwasher PCB lol
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Re: Anybody recognise this module ???

Post by g8dhe » Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:50 pm

I'm slowly working thru all the modules I can lay my hands on to include the circuit details in the Bongo Wiring Manuals, as in time the modules will I suspect become unavailable. It won't mean we can repair everything but where its basic components that have failed then provided we know the values before they loose there magic smoke we should be able to replace them ;-)
I've done the AFT module and just completed the Door Locks Relay and Timer module, the next one is the one above.
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