changing the alternator belts

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changing the alternator belts

Post by lee1972 » Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:24 pm

Hi,
I have looked at all the fury factsheets but cannot find anything that could help me with changing alternator belts. Please can anyone point me in the right direction to find out what is involved in changing the alternator belts?
My father in law has just put a new head gasket in, tightened and filled engine with oil. Just need to replace the belt. Unfortunately, we haven't had much luck in finding anything. Any help would be great.
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Re: changing the alternator belts

Post by wonkanoby » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:15 am

you loosen the mounting bolts

then use the adjuster bolt to wind the alternator closer to the block

fit belts

then tension it with adjuster untill tight

and nip up all bolts

tight being 10 to 12mm defection in longest run
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Re: changing the alternator belts

Post by wonkanoby » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:19 am

also why not do a/c belt at same time

that adjusts with the idle wheeel
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Re: changing the alternator belts

Post by dave_aber » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:31 am

My write-up on Water Pump replacement from a previous post (which covers belt replacement) :

Ignore the obvious bits that are not necessary for doing just the belts (i.e. Battery disconnect, alternator removal, pump removal, etc)

1. Disconnect the -ve lead from the starter battery.

Then, working from under the passenger's seat:

2. Crack / Slacken the 4 bolts holding the pulley on the pump before removing the belts.
3. Remove the wiring from the alternator
4. Slacken the alternator bolts, and adjust it right in to slacken the 2 belts
5. With the Pump / Alternator belts slack, you can now access the AC pump tensioner.
6. Slacken the 17mm nut on the AC tensioner, then loosen the belt using the 12mm bolt on the top of it.
7. Remove the AC belt, then the Water / Alt belts.
8. Remove the alternator
9. Remove the 4 bolts holding the waterpump pulley on.
10. Remove the pulley - might need a tap / lever etc.
11. Remove the 2 nuts, 5 long bolts and 1 short bolt holding the pump in place. Note the position of the short bolt.
12. Remove the pump. Obviously you'll drop the coolant at this point, unless you have previously drained it.
13. Refitting is the reverse of removal.
14. Bleed the system etc.

You'll end up with a scratched left arm.

It's not a bad idea to replace the 3 belts whilst you are in there, however be aware that the new ones should be so tight to get on you will think you have been sold the wrong belts.

With the adjuster set to the slackest position, you can just get the belt started on the last pulley, but you'll struggle to get it fully on with your fingers. Get it nearly on, then blip the engine round on the key (don't start it!). Repeat for moving the 1st waterpump belt to the 2nd position, and again to get the 2nd waterpump belt on, and again to get the 3rd belt on.

Once they are on, you do have to adjust up the slack quite a bit - it's just the initial getting them on that's really tight.

If I remember right - you have to fit the 2 waterpump / alternator belts first, but leave them slack. Then fit the Aircon belt, and do up the tension. Then finally adjust the alternator to tension the first 2 belts. If you tension these up first, you can't (easily) get a socket on the aircon belt tensioner bolt.
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Re: changing the alternator belts

Post by Simon Jones » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:53 am

It's also worth cleaning inside of the pulleys with something like white spirit or IPA to get rid of any oil & rubber debris, & then run a wire brush over the sides of the V to break the glaze / roughen the surface to prevent the belts from squealing.

As mentioned above, change the A/C belt as the same time as it is likely to be as worn as the others & you don't what it breaking & taking the alternator /water pump belts out in the process.
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Re: changing the alternator belts

Post by alant54 » Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:13 pm

Simon Jones wrote:It's also worth cleaning inside of the pulleys with something like white spirit or IPA to get rid of any oil & rubber debris, & then run a wire brush over the sides of the V to break the glaze / roughen the surface to prevent the belts from squealing.

As mentioned above, change the A/C belt as the same time as it is likely to be as worn as the others & you don't what it breaking & taking the alternator /water pump belts out in the process.

Simon...I am surprised that you suggest India Pale Ale as a pulley cleaner..... :shock:

It may clean out your insides after 6 or 7 pints but I doubt that it would work on the pulleys........ :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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P S the brewers at Greene King Brewery would go into shock if they read this......... :evil:
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Re: changing the alternator belts

Post by Bob » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:06 pm

Other IPAs are available. :wink:
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Re: changing the alternator belts

Post by lee1972 » Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:37 pm

Thanks everyone, some great info here, we thought we were sold the wrong belts as they were small, but after reading the responses it seems they are very tight anyway so we will persevere! Cheers!
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Re: changing the alternator belts

Post by Simon Jones » Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:14 pm

If you can't find a suitable brew, then isopropyl alcohol will due the job nicely without the sticky residue :)
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Re: changing the alternator belts

Post by the1andonly » Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:30 am

definitely not for drinking

isopropyl alcohol
Preferred IUPAC name

2-Propanol
Other names

Propan-2-ol; Isopropanol; Rubbing alcohol; sec-Propyl alcohol; s-Propanol; iPrOH; IPA

ethanol @about the 5% level is the preferred drinking medium.
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Re: changing the alternator belts

Post by alant54 » Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:00 pm

Simon Jones wrote:If you can't find a suitable brew, then isopropyl alcohol will due the job nicely without the sticky residue :)

We use that in work for cleaning electronic components.....a very effective degreaser....but also evaporates VERY quickly.......it will dry out the oils in your skin in seconds.

Definitely NOT for drinking......... :shock: ...... :lol:

Alan


PS...is rubbing alcohol what we used to call wintergreen in the olden days....?
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