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Not starting again

Post by bongobaz » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:22 pm

Bongo not starting again changed and charged battery. Changed glow plugs.
Turning over no problem but not firing up. Stinky white smoke out the exhaust.
This happened before but righted itself.
What next ?
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Re: Not starting again

Post by stefan442 » Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:55 pm

glow plug relay? I assume you checked to make sure glow plugs heated up whilst you had the rail out?

Had a similar problem myself not so long ago! Not so sure about white smoke though!
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Re: Not starting again

Post by Bob » Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:26 pm

Naughty Bongy.

Hope you get fixed soon, Baz.
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Re: Not starting again

Post by NathM » Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:05 pm

White smoke is usually indication of unburnt diesel, as mentioned, check theres power to the glow plugs, then crack off a fuel feed pipe and make sure you have fuel at the injectors and come back with results. its not uncommon to blow the fusable link by the battery whilst swapping out plugs

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Re: Not starting again

Post by bongobaz » Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:48 pm

Will have a look thanks.
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Re: Not starting again

Post by NathM » Mon Dec 02, 2013 4:56 pm

and whilst your at it, check interior fuse box, middle row far left (15A)! as losing that will wipe out lots of essential circuits

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Re: Not starting again

Post by bongobaz » Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:47 pm

Is it ok , advisable, to use Quick start spray ?
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Re: Not starting again

Post by Bob » Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:18 pm

I was always told not to use it because it would remove carbon from the top of the cylinders which helped with compression.

Things may have moved on since then.

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Re: Not starting again

Post by NathM » Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:39 pm

You could try it (short term!), would give you an indication if the issue is fuel related! if it starts with easy start then it might indicate that vehicle isnt fuelling correctly

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Re: Not starting again

Post by bongobaz » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:26 pm

Got 12.70 at battery but can't get a reading at glow plug rail so its looking like plug relay, any way to test this?
I've decided against quick start for now. But had to come inside, blooming cold out there and traffic getting a bit busy to be bent over the motor.
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Re: Not starting again

Post by NathM » Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:36 pm

follow the positive terminal and just behind the battery is a black fabric tube, inside this is a fusible link which blows if the rail shorts, check there first, before looking at the relay! alternative test is to (carefully) using a jump lead connect to the positive of the battery, touch and hold it to the glow plug rail for 10 seconds then crank and see if she starts

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Re: Not starting again

Post by stefan442 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:31 pm

http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... 8&start=15

read on from there, can ignore the first page. I was barking up the wrong tree
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Re: Not starting again

Post by stefan442 » Tue Dec 03, 2013 5:32 pm

http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... =3&t=59599

pic of relay position and inline fuse
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Re: Not starting again

Post by bongobaz » Thu Dec 05, 2013 1:14 pm

Just been under bonnet with laptop comparing pictures, found in line fuses seem ok.
new relay just arrived will fit and cross fingers. Any advice is more than welcome.
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Re: Not starting again

Post by bongobaz » Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:21 pm

What a team stuck it in, held breath, turned key BOOM fired first time. Whoo hoo!
And its just started snowing.
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