Can't start Won't start!!

[tyrell34pt]

Had the radio on whilst working on the van. After couple of hours thought I would turn on the ignition and started the engine to make sure battery had not run down. The van started as normal but then the radio made the boing noise normally associated with being turned off and I noticed the hold light started flashing along with a second pinging noise repeated in a similar fashion to the radio. I immediately turned the ignition off and removed the key. Now when I try and start the van I get NOTHING no warning lights no electrical activity no thing!! The central locking does not function, the electric motor for the side door does not function NOTHING.
HELP PLEASE

[Simon Jones]

You don't mention if petrol or diesel. The latter generally requires more current to get it started, but once running will be ok on a low(ish) battery. If it's a petrol engine, it will turn over better on a low battery, but the ignition, injectors and ECU will need a decent voltage. I think the best bet is to put the battery on charge over night and try again in the morning. You can lock all the doors manually with the key, but the closing mechanism can get a bit upset as a result of a flat battery.

The next step is to get a leisure battery and wire the stereo to it, or cheaper still, get a portable battery powered radio

Welcome to the forum by the way .

[tyrell34pt]

Thanks for the welcome and I love the van - wish I had invested years ago!

The van is the 2.5 V6 petrol.
I have a leisure battery fitted
I have tried jumping the van from my V6 Rover 75 and absolutely nothing registered let alone allowed me to start. It is as if there is an immobilise activated but I don't know that there is one even fitted.

Regards
Philip

[Simon Jones]

Could be the main fuse has gone. Under the bonnet, open the fuse box lid and inspect the left hand green fuse. If this fails, you'll get no lights on the dashboard and it won't start, but factory fitted central locking should still work which is different to your symptoms.

You mention you were doing some work on the van earlier: was it anything electrical? Just wondering if the problem is related to that. Check the battery voltage too. If you've had the interior lights on too, it doesn't take long to run the battery down.

I'm going to have to sign off now but some other folks may be along presently to advise.

[mikeonb4c]

Whereabouts are you based, in case there is any local help available. My observations and questions are the same ad Simons (though he is much more technically knowledgeable than me, plus he owns a v6!). I find it hard to believe 2hrs of radio could have much impact unless the battery was v duff. Sounds like something has upset the electronics / fuses. Good luck and keep us posted / come back with more q&a.

[haydn callow]

Check all fuses....you may well have disturbed something whilst working on the Bongo......problem is...if you find a blown fuse....it may well blow the replacement if you don,t find the cause.....

[haydn callow]

Check all fuses....you may well have disturbed something whilst working on the Bongo......problem is...if you find a blown fuse....it may well blow the replacement if you don,t find the cause.....

[tyrell34pt]

Cheers everyone for the advice.
Checked the fuses under bonnet and in the box marked with circuit and main I found the ADD FAN 30A fuse blown which I have replaced with absolutely no effect on the outcome.
All the fuses immediately on the battery output (3 x 30A & a 100A) are all good.
The only thing I can't test is the green 4-pin NF02 unit in the main fuse box labelled CIRCUIT but this looks more like a relay than a fuse?!
Any more ideas
PS both main and leisure batteries are showing 12.4 volts across the terminals. Also I was working on the installation of a reversing camera with the power lead taken from the nearside reverse light supply.

[haydn callow]

Have you checked the fuse box by the drivers right knee??

[teenmal]

Hi,a lot of these vehicle have a fuse situated at the positive battery terminal,sometime a wee bit hard to spot,might be worth having a look.

[tyrell34pt]

1) I have checked the battery output terminal fuses visually and they look OK
2) I have now checked every single fuse in the box by the drivers knee and they are all good
The interior lights do not work
The side lights do not work
The hazard warning lights do not work
BUT the dipped beams do work even without the ignition key in however the lights on warning buzzer does not work.

For information the leisure battery is wired directly from the positive terminal of the van battery and the leisure battery earth is to the van inner wing panel with a good connection used for measuring the battery power output at 12.4 volts. The 12V circuit in the van is covered by a couple of small in line bullet fuses - there is no Zig unit controlling the crossover or charging.

The van is fitted with a Carmate TE500 unit found under the dashboard panel - is this an isolator/alarm unit?? All of the micro switches (there are 6 in total) are set to the OFF position but this is as I found it.
We have had absolutely no problems with the van until now. It has always started first time and has being doing a considerable number of stop start journeys whilst I have been delivering telephone directories and again with absolutely no problems.

Apart from a hidden fuse or isolator I cannot think of anything else.

[tyrell34pt]

1) I have checked the battery output terminal fuses visually and they look OK
2) I have now checked every single fuse in the box by the drivers knee and they are all good
The interior lights do not work
The side lights do not work
The hazard warning lights do not work
BUT the dipped beams do work even without the ignition key in however the lights on warning buzzer does not work.

For information the leisure battery is wired directly from the positive terminal of the van battery and the leisure battery earth is to the van inner wing panel with a good connection used for measuring the battery power output at 12.4 volts. The 12V circuit in the van is covered by a couple of small in line bullet fuses - there is no Zig unit controlling the crossover or charging.

The van is fitted with a Carmate TE500 unit found under the dashboard panel - is this an isolator/alarm unit?? All of the micro switches (there are 6 in total) are set to the OFF position but this is as I found it.
We have had absolutely no problems with the van until now. It has always started first time and has being doing a considerable number of stop start journeys whilst I have been delivering telephone directories and again with absolutely no problems.

Apart from a hidden fuse or isolator I cannot think of anything else.

[bobalong]

Please help.

I have an N reg bonbon freetop, just lately as I have been driving, when I break the engine stalls. All the power goes off and the then the engine stops. It will then take a few mins of trying to turn the engine over then it will start again. It does not happen on every journey however it is doing it more often.

I have had it serviced, the fuel stainer cleaned, however it is still doing it.

Any advice please.

[teenmal]

1) I have checked the battery output terminal fuses visually and they look OK2) I have now checked every single fuse in the box by the drivers knee and they are all good
The interior lights do not work
The side lights do not work
The hazard warning lights do not work
BUT the dipped beams do work even without the ignition key in however the lights on warning buzzer does not work.

For information the leisure battery is wired directly from the positive terminal of the van battery and the leisure battery earth is to the van inner wing panel with a good connection used for measuring the battery power output at 12.4 volts. The 12V circuit in the van is covered by a couple of small in line bullet fuses - there is no Zig unit controlling the crossover or charging.

The van is fitted with a Carmate TE500 unit found under the dashboard panel - is this an isolator/alarm unit?? All of the micro switches (there are 6 in total) are set to the OFF position but this is as I found it.
We have had absolutely no problems with the van until now. It has always started first time and has being doing a considerable number of stop start journeys whilst I have been delivering telephone directories and again with absolutely no problems.

Apart from a hidden fuse or isolator I cannot think of anything else.

Looks can be deceiving.

[Simon Jones]

Hi bobalong, it would be worth you starting a new thread on the forum otherwise it will get very messy with people trying to reply to the original issue which is a different fault.