Servicing a 2.0 litre petrol Bongo, query on gearbox

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Servicing a 2.0 litre petrol Bongo, query on gearbox

Post by ChrisQ » Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:34 pm

Just completed my first service on a Bongo
Following advice on this forum, bought a Pela oil pump, a good investment.
For the info sheets, the 2.0 l only takes about 4 litres of oil on a change, including changing the filter, so I managed to overfill as I was using diesel engine info !!
Air filter a doddle to change
plugs very accessible

Query,

Where is the dipstick on the gearbox on a 2.0 L ??
I had both seats up and could not locate a dipstick, a pointer would help if anyone could aim me in the right direction. Probably staring me in the face, but I couldn't see one
I did not change the fluid because I couldn't find it.
As the engine oil capacity is well less than the info sheets issued for the diesel models, is the gearbox & oil capacity on the 2.0 L any different or is it the same gearbox fitted to all models.

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Re: Servicing a 2.0 litre petrol Bongo, query on gearbox

Post by g8dhe » Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:33 pm

Its shown here as 19-880, its the similar on all types but not sure if oil capacity is identical, under the drivers seat running up from the lower rear to about midpoint of the engine http://lushprojects.com/bongopartsmk2/c ... mgno=.html
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On the V6 its here in the foreground just below the oil filler cap.
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Re: Servicing a 2.0 litre petrol Bongo, query on gearbox

Post by Northern Bongolow » Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:02 am

is the tube and stick longer than the diesel then, or is the box just mounted further forward because of the short engine, if so, it must have a longer prop??.
just wondering for parts swapover info.

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Re: Servicing a 2.0 litre petrol Bongo, query on gearbox

Post by g8dhe » Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:31 am

No real idea of the length Ady, I just looked at the Lush diagrams and had a photo of my own engine.
2.0Litre http://lushprojects.com/bongopartsmk2/c ... mgno=.html
2.5V6 http://lushprojects.com/bongopartsmk2/c ... mgno=.html
2.5TD http://lushprojects.com/bongopartsmk2/c ... 1of03.html
On the two petrols the tube is the same part number, but on the diesel both 2wd and 4wd its similar overall shape but looks to be shorter and has a different part number.
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Re: Servicing a 2.0 litre petrol Bongo, query on gearbox

Post by ChrisQ » Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:19 pm

Geoff,
thanks for your reply and photo.
I've had another grope under the drivers seat and now found the dipstick. I've been converted to LPG, and the injectors are mounted directly over the dipstick obscuring it. The pointer in the photo of the V6 was the shape of the "handle" at the end of the dipstick. I was looking for a wire loop type arrangement as on the end of the engine dipstick.

The fluid on the dipstick is a lovely clean pink colour.
Does this imply that it's relatively fresh and doesn't need changing ?? The Bongo was serviced on purchase, but no idea if that included new ATF.

Next silly question, I can now get the ATF out with the aid of my Pela, but how do you get the new fluid back in. If back down via the dipstick tube there must be some sort of technique

Thanks for such a swift response

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Re: Servicing a 2.0 litre petrol Bongo, query on gearbox

Post by mikeWalsall » Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:58 pm

Check the fluid with the engine running and top up down the dipstick tube ..
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Re: Servicing a 2.0 litre petrol Bongo, query on gearbox

Post by Simon Jones » Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:03 pm

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Re: Servicing a 2.0 litre petrol Bongo, query on gearbox

Post by ChrisQ » Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:09 pm

Thanks for the practical suggestion.
On the club fact sheet for changing ATF fluid, it mentions a 2' length of plastic pipe with a hose connector, but not how to use it
I know this type of syphon, and will getting one to complete the job, it looks just the job. I jst find it amazing that you have to refill via the dipstick tube !!
Thanks for your response

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Re: Servicing a 2.0 litre petrol Bongo, query on gearbox

Post by Alacrity » Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:16 pm

Most older auto gearboxes are filled through the dipstick tube. Later vehicles rarely have a dipstick or tube & are filled, like a diff, through a level bung but unlike a diff with the engine running at a certain temperature measured on a scanner. Plenty these day require the trans to be filled by pumping the oil vertically upwards through an internal standpipe, again with the engine running & at a certain temp.
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