HID Light Kit

dandemann8 · Post by **dandemann8** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:33 pm

Just fitted one of these,

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280730117632? ... 1439.l2649

to my motorbike and WOW what a difference,

so I think my next project is a kit for the Bongo but which one as there

are so many different kits out there

Post by **Simon Jones** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:17 pm

I seem to recall there are some quite specific rules regarding these. They should only be fitted to projector style lamps, must be electrically height adjustable and should have headlamp washers fitted. Of course, it doesn't prevent HID lamps being fitted, but possibly increases the risk of being pulled over or failing MOT. I've got factory fitted HID lamps and they only have the height adjustment, not the other two. May be worth having a read further on the subject.

mikexgough · Post by **mikexgough** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:35 pm

Simon Jones wrote:I seem to recall there are some quite specific rules regarding these. They should only be fitted to projector style lamps, must be electrically height adjustable and should have headlamp washers fitted. Of course, it doesn't prevent HID lamps being fitted, but possibly increases the risk of being pulled over or failing MOT. I've got factory fitted HID lamps and they only have the height adjustment, not the other two. May be worth having a read further on the subject.

Quite right with the height adjust/Washer set up in the EU.... rules in Japan are indeed different as are other countries out of the EU...

dandemann8 · Post by **dandemann8** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:16 pm

Obviously not aware of these said laws but how can something that improves vision and safety be WRONG

Post by **Simon Jones** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:44 pm

I think the issue is that a badly fitted / adjusted HID headlamp will cause more dazzle to oncoming drivers which is more dangerous than a conventional halogen / xenon bulb. You can usually spot the yoofs in their Citroen Saxos by the glare the precedes them.

dandemann8 · Post by **dandemann8** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:04 pm

Simon Jones wrote:I think the issue is that a badly fitted / adjusted HID headlamp will cause more dazzle to oncoming drivers which is more dangerous than a conventional halogen / xenon bulb. You can usually spot the yoofs in their Citroen Saxos by the glare the precedes them.

I know what your saying but surely common sense must prevail, I've been out on the road and not ONE car has flashed me so I'm quite happy that I've got a fully functional safe set up

scanner · Post by **scanner** » Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:54 pm

dandemann8 wrote:Obviously not aware of these said laws but how can something that improves vision and safety be WRONG

Yes if they don't auto adjust to avoid blinding drivers coming the other way.

They are bad enough on some cars supposedly fitted with the auto levelling - when fitted to stiffly sprung pimpmobiles they are an absolute menace.

Contact the sellers and ask them to "confirm they are legal for on road use in the UK".

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http://www2.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/d ... lamps.html

helen&tony · Post by **helen&tony** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:54 am

Hi
If night vision is a problem, I might suggest something I had considered MANY MANY years ago, to contend with idiots who drive up behind at night with headlamps seemingly adjusted to damage your eyes via the rear-view mirror....It seemed the only way to defend was to attack...namely with some device to fry the perpetrators eyeballs...following a discussion with friends, we decided on a Suez Canal Searchlight mounted inside the boot with a boot release cable...now these little suckers are mandatory on the canal, and certainly fit the "Night Vision" bill at 3 kilowatts for the 28 inch version
http://www.francis.co.uk/technical.asp#panel-6
...HID units...HUH...paltry!!!!!!!

Cheers
Helen

Post by **Simon Jones** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:25 am

The eBay listing makes no reference to the bulbs being 'type approved to ECE Regulation 98 as a component'. Playing Devils advocate for a minute, what would happen if a vehicle fitted with non-compliant lights were to be involved in an accident? It sounds like a perfect opportunity for an insurance company to wriggle out of a claim if they decided this was an inappropriate modification.

I've given serious thought to fitting HID bulbs to my Volvo XC70, but have decided that I would rather wait until I can get a pair of newer style headlamp units from scrap yard which already have the projector lenses fitted and are suitable for conversion.

mikexgough · Post by **mikexgough** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:15 pm

Some conversation here .....

scanner · Post by **scanner** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:51 pm

Simon Jones wrote: and are suitable for conversion.

If you read the DfT advice there is no such thing - conversion is NOT an option.

You will have to find OEM HiDs if you want to be legal.

Post by **Simon Jones** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:59 pm

Ah, back to the drawing board then.

scanner · Post by **scanner** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:27 pm

...............................and then fit the self-levelling and washing functions.

mikexgough · Post by **mikexgough** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:20 pm

It's like Day Light running lights..... they should operate when the engine starts....then when side/parking lamps switch on should dim to around 20% brightness...... even after market ones... to be legal...
Many of the cheapo kits are just the LED lamps, no switching module and most are not ECE compliant either....

bongobum82 · Post by **bongobum82** » Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:34 pm

soon to be part of the MOT test so aftermarket systems will be illegal

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