Bongo Fury

I have just bought a 1997 Ford Freda 2.5 Automatic and intend driving through France, Italy and shipping Van into Cyprus but Cyprus Customs Excise want to know the CO2 (g/km) and it is not shown on the Vehicle Registration Certificate can anyone please help as to how i can acquire this as DVLA here cant help.

Can Admin move this to Techie pls.

To the best of my knowledge there are no figures for that year of injun

I think you'll need to ask Cyprus what the procedure is for vehicles originally registered pre-co2 measurement. They must have a similar arrangement as here, where cc is the determining factor pre 2001.

I seem to recall importer Algys (I think) have some connection with Cyprus it could be worth contacting them for advice.

here is the Japanese Shakken MOT...... http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_ur ... =Translate

Which is like the UK MOT...... a smoke test....

I have been in Japan via the Interweb..... and thought I would add your query to my searches..... that is all I can find

Not sure if this will stand up in a court of law, but according to:

http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... O2#p229934

V5 Details:
Make: - - - - - - - - - - - - -MAZDA
Model/Type - - - - - - - - - -No entry (Blank)
Date of first registration: - - 01 03 2000 - (DECL/D 2000)
Wheelplan: - - - - - - - - - - 2AXLE RIGID BODY
Revenue weight - - - - - - - -2170 KG GROSS
Taxation class: - - - - - - - - DIESAL CAR
Type of fuel - - - - - - - - - - HEAVY OIL
Cylinder capacity - - - - - - - 2490 CC
CO2 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 302 G/KM
No. of seats inc driver - - - - 8

mister munkey wrote:Can Admin move this to Techie pls.

Done

Simon Jones wrote:Not sure if this will stand up in a court of law, but according to:

http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... O2#p229934

V5 Details:
Make: - - - - - - - - - - - - -MAZDA
Model/Type - - - - - - - - - -No entry (Blank)
Date of first registration: - - 01 03 2000 - (DECL/D 2000)
Wheelplan: - - - - - - - - - - 2AXLE RIGID BODY
Revenue weight - - - - - - - -2170 KG GROSS
Taxation class: - - - - - - - - DIESAL CAR
Type of fuel - - - - - - - - - - HEAVY OIL
Cylinder capacity - - - - - - - 2490 CC
CO2 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 302 G/KM
No. of seats inc driver - - - - 8

A 2000 Bongo is not the same as a 1997 one. So that figure could be higher or lower than for a 1997.

My 1997 100bhp 1.9TD doesn't not have a CO2 figure so tax is £190pa
My 2005 120bhp 1.9TD does have a CO2 figure (159g/km) so tax is £150pa

Pre and post CO2 measurement engines cannot be compared.

scanner wrote:I think you'll need to ask Cyprus what the procedure is for vehicles originally registered pre-co2 measurement. They must have a similar arrangement as here, where cc is the determining factor pre 2001.

I seem to recall importer Algys (I think) have some connection with Cyprus it could be worth contacting them for advice.

I have a cargo person making enquiries now in Cyprus but they have never come across a Ford Freda - yet !!

jibba55 wrote:

scanner wrote:I think you'll need to ask Cyprus what the procedure is for vehicles originally registered pre-co2 measurement. They must have a similar arrangement as here, where cc is the determining factor pre 2001.

I seem to recall importer Algys (I think) have some connection with Cyprus it could be worth contacting them for advice.

I have a cargo person making enquiries now in Cyprus but they have never come across a Ford Freda - yet !!

Does it matter?
Surely any vehicle first registered before the CO2 system started will be on a flat rate scheme of some kind. SFAIK that is the system in the UK and ROI and I'd have thought Cyprus would be likely to be similar.

scanner wrote:

jibba55 wrote:

scanner wrote:I think you'll need to ask Cyprus what the procedure is for vehicles originally registered pre-co2 measurement. They must have a similar arrangement as here, where cc is the determining factor pre 2001.

I seem to recall importer Algys (I think) have some connection with Cyprus it could be worth contacting them for advice.

I have a cargo person making enquiries now in Cyprus but they have never come across a Ford Freda - yet !!

Does it matter?
Surely any vehicle first registered before the CO2 system started will be on a flat rate scheme of some kind. SFAIK that is the system in the UK and ROI and I'd have thought Cyprus would be likely to be similar.

I hope so but Cyprus has rules all for itself !! but i have been told i wont pay import, excise duty on taking Van into Cyprus just Road Registration Fees

A Google search on "Cyprus vehicle registration tax" turns this up

http://www.mcw.gov.cy/mcw/rtd/rtd.nsf/1 ... cedure.doc

BUT it only refers to vehicles
"A. Right hand drive, used vehicles, with first registration or purchase in a European Union member state"
and
"B. Right hand drive, used vehicles, imported from a country outside the European Union"

Your Bongo is neither as it wasn't first registered or purchased in a European Union member state nor is it being imported from a country outside the European Union.

So I don't know what applies to your circumstances.

scanner wrote:

Simon Jones wrote:Not sure if this will stand up in a court of law, but according to:

http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... O2#p229934

V5 Details:
Make: - - - - - - - - - - - - -MAZDA
Model/Type - - - - - - - - - -No entry (Blank)
Date of first registration: - - 01 03 2000 - (DECL/D 2000)
Wheelplan: - - - - - - - - - - 2AXLE RIGID BODY
Revenue weight - - - - - - - -2170 KG GROSS
Taxation class: - - - - - - - - DIESAL CAR
Type of fuel - - - - - - - - - - HEAVY OIL
Cylinder capacity - - - - - - - 2490 CC
CO2 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 302 G/KM
No. of seats inc driver - - - - 8

A 2000 Bongo is not the same as a 1997 one. So that figure could be higher or lower than for a 1997.

My 1997 100bhp 1.9TD doesn't not have a CO2 figure so tax is £190pa
My 2005 120bhp 1.9TD does have a CO2 figure (159g/km) so tax is £150pa

Pre and post CO2 measurement engines cannot be compared.

i gave informed my Cyprus importer this and he is taking information and photos of van (they not sure what it looks like) to Customs and Excise

I'm probably barking up the wrong tree here, but when my Multipla used to be MOTd at a certain garage, I'd get a printout of the emissions attached to the back of the MOT certificate. Haven't had any for the Bongo, and don't know what was written on my Multipla ones as all the paperwork went to the new owner when it was sold.

Would getting an emissions test and printout give the answer you need?

Alison01326 wrote:I'm probably barking up the wrong tree here, but when my Multipla used to be MOTd at a certain garage, I'd get a printout of the emissions attached to the back of the MOT certificate. Haven't had any for the Bongo, and don't know what was written on my Multipla ones as all the paperwork went to the new owner when it was sold.

Would getting an emissions test and printout give the answer you need?

Spoke to my garage and Mot Test is different to CO2, shame co my emissions were only 2.30