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oh dear, loud rattle noise

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:21 pm
by al.b
Hi all

I would love to visit this site sometime without problems cropping up. Any ideas before I go away and cry please.

Driving along tonight with a sudden and progressive loud rattling sound from the engine , if I ease of the gas it goes but put my foot down and the rattle is very loud. Carried on for 200mtrs and the noise which sounds like a very noisy tapett( but I think its more serious) got really bad, when I pulled up the smell(clutch type smell) was overwhelming. I have a 2.5td diesel Automatic 1996 55k on the clock and now very poorly. Their dosn't seem to be a poor take up of power but it sounds serious.

My own thoughts where the clutch and possible the clutch the plate but other than that I am clueless as a am relative new to Bongo but have no problems in 2 years of use(spoke to soon) but feel an expencsive tempature coming on!!! Any thoughts experts?
Any help would be appreciated

Al.b
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Re: oh dear

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:27 pm
by scanner
al.b wrote:Hi all

I would love to visit this site sometime without problems cropping up. Any ideas before I go away and cry please.

Driving along tonight with a sudden and progressive loud rattling sound from the engine , if I ease of the gas it goes but put my foot down and the rattle is very loud. Carried on for 200mtrs and the noise which sounds like a very noisy tapett( but I think its more serious) got really bad, when I pulled up the smell(clutch type smell) was overwhelming. I have a 2.5td diesel Automatic 1996 55k on the clock and now very poorly. Their dosn't seem to be a poor take up of power but it sounds serious.

My own thoughts where the clutch and possible the clutch the plate but other than that I am clueless as a am relative new to Bongo but have no problems in 2 years of use(spoke to soon) but feel an expencsive tempature coming on!!! Any thoughts experts?
Any help would be appreciated

Al.b
:(
I could stand to be corrected, but I don't think you have a clutch plate.

Re: oh dear

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:29 pm
by scanner
Thinking about it your torque converter may have come loose.

I seem to recall that can result in a jangly noise.

Re: oh dear

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:30 pm
by missfixit70
Could it be a pulley?, seem to remember a copule of people having issues.

Re: oh dear

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:33 pm
by scanner
missfixit70 wrote:Could it be a pulley?, seem to remember a copule of people having issues.
Yes, forgot that, could be the rubber damper in the crankshaft pulley breaking up. Or pulley come loose.

Re: oh dear

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:46 pm
by aitch
my crankshaft pulley rubber went and it made a lot of noise - not too dear to replace - second hand ones are available on line - good luck with this

Re: oh dear

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:56 pm
by mister munkey
Along the lines of kissing as many frogs as possible to find a solution, my experience down this route was when the back bearing in my alternator gave up. Horrid noise for a day or two of short commutes before the charge/sediment lights came on to give a clue as to the cause.

Best of luck matey, heres hoping its a simple fix.


[-o<

Re: oh dear

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:08 pm
by You've Been Bongod
al.b
your best bet would be to give wheelquick a call and see if they can book you in :wink:

Re: oh dear

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:14 pm
by al.b
Thank you to all for your speedy replies, Old age brings many problems least of all thinking an automatic had a clutch!!! Its bl..y cold,dark, you need transport like tommorrow, think we have all been thier, maybe daylight brings hope.Thanks very much Guys and Girls

Al. =D>

Re: oh dear

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:18 pm
by dandywarhol
Don't worry about scanner al.b - he's still learning :wink:

Your auto box has 3 clutch packs - although your symptoms don't sound like a clutch problem. A torque convertor drive plate can become loose/crack but very rare - the pulley answer sounds good to me but I'm puzzled by the smell you describe. #-o

Re: oh dear

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:28 pm
by scanner
dandywarhol wrote:Don't worry about scanner al.b - he's still learning :wink:
Ohh I know about those clutches I just didn't think (as you do) that they would give rise to that type of noise or that type of smell, I was commenting about a flywheel type clutch in a bellhousing as I thought that was what al b was postulating on.

Isn't there yet another clutch in the aircon unit as well?

Re: oh dear

Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:31 pm
by dandywarhol
...............and a clutch of eggs in the shopping basket............... 8)

Re: oh dear

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:22 am
by The Great Pretender
Ok, lets look at the good news. [-o<
It dosn't sound like an internal problem (small end, big end, valve hitting piston or the auto box) as there is a smell.
Lift the lids on the engine Al and run the engine, try it under load, I recon that MM's post points the way. :shock:
Good luck.


Follow the sign................................A S :wink:

Re: oh dear

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:44 am
by mikeonb4c
...and as YBB says, if you can manage to get Wheelquick to look at it and can limp over to Wigan (in the car....obviously!) then that would be a good option. Be of good cheer and travel in hope little grasshopper 8)

Re: oh dear, loud rattle noise

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:09 pm
by al.b
hi guys

Thanks for all the replies, it looks like the crankshaft bush. Q Is it easy to replace? Is it accessable from the front to fit the bush? Can anybody suggest a supplier. Is it a big job to those that have replaced one before. Any help would be appreciated. I suppose I could emigrate???

Al