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Lighting problem

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:59 pm
by dp bradford
Just been to Tesco (sold out of the veg oil that's on offer for £7.99 / 10L :x :x ) On the way there everything was normal, on coming back out and starting up the headlights wouldn't come on :?

Side and tail lights on as normal and full beam works too - is it possible both lamps have failed simultaneously, or is there a fuse that could have popped? It's just started peeing it down, monsoon style, so I thought I'd ask here first rather than go rummaging in the dark and rain :roll: :roll:

Dave

Re: Lighting problem

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:03 pm
by maxheadroom
Both of mine played up, I had to bang them and they would come on, then both failed :!:

Re: Lighting problem

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:04 pm
by brorabongo
relay? as I think the fuses are seperate for LHS and RHS?

Re: Lighting problem

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:11 pm
by dp bradford
brorabongo wrote:relay? ...
Any idea where it would be located?

Dave :?

Re: Lighting problem

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:41 pm
by brorabongo
AFAIK mine is just beside the coolant tank on a fitting bolted to the inner wing. It will have a rubber cover over it, and it looks like any over spill from the gutter below the screen would drip right onto it. You pull the relay inside its cover rubber down, and it should slide off the fitting. If I mind right the relay is something like H270. there might be a few of the same relayson the same fitting, so worth maybe swapping a couple about and see it that makes a difference?

I off looking for the photos I thought I had :?

Re: Lighting problem

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:42 pm
by brorabongo
Found them :roll:

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Re: Lighting problem

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:58 pm
by dp bradford
Cheers, brorabongo - I'll take a closer look tomorrow :D ...and perhaps hit one or two with a small hammer.... 8)

Dave

Re: Lighting problem

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:19 pm
by dp bradford
OK, been looking into this tonight :roll:

After much head scratching and rummaging (I've only got one relay where Brora's shows three... and that is for my front fog lamps....) It turns out that, YES, it IS possible for both front lamps to fail simultaneously :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: Really don't know why....

Must have been a power surge or summat..... :? :? :? :?

Anyway, two new bulbs, and every things back to normal 8)

Dave

Re: Lighting problem

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:24 am
by Nevets
Just for thought :idea:
How many cars/vans do you see driving about with just one headlight workining :?:

I see loads.

So it's fair to assume that when the other bulb then fails you think you have a lighting fault other than both bulbs blowing independently at different times :wink:

Not many folks check there lights much [-X but as the nights get earlier we see more of these callouts and they nearly all say it's a fuse/switch/relay fault when infact it is only the bulbs. :wink:

Of course there is the exception where the vehicle has a underlying leccy fault but that's very rare...

Glad it was something simple/cheap :lol:

Cheers Steve

Re: Lighting problem

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:57 am
by Yamaha
I would be inclined to check the lighting earth connections - running under voltage can cause headlights to fail.

Also found with my oldish bikes - electrical connector blocks that have lain undisturbed for yonks can tarnish - a few hours spent in the sun disconnecting, cleaning, and refitting all the ones you can find will pay dividends in the long run. Maplins, I believe, sell cans of Switch Cleaner, ideal for the purpose.

Mike

Re: Lighting problem

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:55 am
by helen&tony
Hi Dave
Glad you got it sorted...ours went suddenly one very dim, and one failed....turned out to be bulbs, as it is law that you must use headlights from november till march, or thereabouts, during the day, and it seems to wear the bulbs out too quickly....and they were a well-respected make. We nearly had to come home one night last winter with our friends sitting on the bonnet with a divining rod!!! :lol: :lol:
Cheers
Helen