Should i spray or should i no now

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Should i spray or should i no now

Post by Bongo.Baz.tard » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:15 pm

I've got a litlle bit of rust comin' through on my wheel arches and along the sill .
So after lookin at all your gleam machines, I've bit the bullit and bought one of the air compressors and bead blasting attachmets from Aldi. At £69 ITHOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD BUY. Also bought air impact wrench and bead blaster.
I was wondering if there was any spray experts, who have done a bit more than me, with any words of wisdom. I've prepped and masked and spayed afew sets of wheels off my bike, but used cans to a decent finish.
ADVICE ON PAINT. two pac ? will local spray shop be able to supply perfect match .Advice on laquer. ANY advice much appreciated.
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Post by The Great Pretender » Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:13 am

2 pack can no longer be used for car application. You can buy and use it to spray your railings, garage door ect. :wink: Remember correct mask if you use it.
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Post by Bongo.Baz.tard » Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:29 am

shows you how long since i sprayed anythin'. will local paint shop be able to match paint and how much?
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Post by The Great Pretender » Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:40 am

Bongo.Baz.tard wrote:shows you how long since i sprayed anythin'. will local paint shop be able to match paint and how much?
Yes they will, depends on what they recommend. The comp from Aldi is a good piece of kit, did it have the gravity spray gun (cup on top)?
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Post by Bongo.Baz.tard » Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:08 am

"yeah plus an air brush and a tyre adapter and a " profesional spray gun" with under slung canister . plus blow gun , jet blast washer. ...all for 69 quid seemed too good to pass up .
i also bought the bead blaster and an in line regulator /oiler which removes moisture from the air lines (thought this would be handy for sprayin') and an impact wrench (went abit aldi panick buy crazy)but all in spent £120 not alot for alot.
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Post by Bongo.Baz.tard » Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:13 am

ONLY poss PROB i could see once i got it home was they only recomend continuous use of 15 mins for comp.
Cause its classed as portable diy not industrial but i still think it will prove a useful tool
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Post by The Great Pretender » Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:27 am

The size of the reciever is the problem when spraying, it wont do a full panel. I have a large (4') propane cylinder that I use linked into the compressor. Sprayed a Toyota Hi-Ace with it on a smaller unit than the one you have. :D
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Post by Bongo.Baz.tard » Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:30 am

yeah have seen this ,
how do you connect it to the receiver on the comp. not that im gonna be doin' a full respray , but would like to know. is it just like a tee piece connection sort of thing. this gives a bigger amount of available air?
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Post by The Great Pretender » Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:38 am

Yep sort of
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Post by Bongo.Baz.tard » Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:50 am

may get back to you with acouple of queeries on this subject, if ya dont mind that is.
but for now im off to bed , got football with ma wee fella in the mornin'
Nice chattin' with you.
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Post by kloonsy » Sat Mar 08, 2008 9:31 pm

The Great Pretender wrote:2 pack can no longer be used for car application. You can buy and use it to spray your railings, garage door ect. :wink: Remember correct mask if you use it.
what? of course it can. What is outlawed is cellulose because of high voc's. Most bodyshops have changed to water based base coats, but these still need covering with 2 pack lacquer. waterbased lacquer i believe is not fully developed, problems with uv rays
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Post by The Great Pretender » Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:53 pm

kloonsy wrote:
The Great Pretender wrote:2 pack can no longer be used for car application. You can buy and use it to spray your railings, garage door ect. :wink: Remember correct mask if you use it.
what? of course it can. What is outlawed is cellulose because of high voc's. Most bodyshops have changed to water based base coats, but these still need covering with 2 pack lacquer. waterbased lacquer i believe is not fully developed, problems with uv rays
Just quoting a paint supplier, and yes it is barking mad as you still need 2 pack clear over waterbase paint.
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Post by lizard » Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:40 pm

Hi

Sounds a nice piece of kit. I have a spot of rust on my nice shiny silver Bongo, wheel arch again. Reminds me of my nice shiny black Ford Siera Ghia with rusty wheel arches. Times never change. :cry:


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Post by PeetieM » Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:09 pm

No input in regard to the painting, just had to acknowledge a top thread title. Nice work.

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Post by bigdaddycain » Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:58 pm

What an appropriate thread, i just purchased the same comp from aldi last week, i've not had time to check it out yet....

I managed to paint a few items on my bongo with reasonable success with my old earlex paint system, (rear bumper,arches,grille,freetop).

I reckon the 15 minute continuous use of the compressor exclusion could be beneficial to the end results,most people get carried away with the lacquer, not realizing how it can sag, or run,even 5 minutes after finishing spraying! If you plan the job, and take your time,you can use the 15 spraying "window" as a good excuse to let each coat "go off" before attempting the next coat, and risking a run.

I discovered that taking your time, and meticulous preparation was the key to spraying paint.... The base coat should go on thin,and matt in appearance,with slightly more generous coatings of lacquer on top.

It may be an idea to buy a damaged bonnet from a small car from your local scrappy,and practise your repair, and paint trchniques on that,before you get stuck in with the bongo?

Lots of practise is very important when learning to paint.

I think my painting skills are "passable", but it's certainly more self gratifying to do a reasonable job yourself, than to hand over a large wad of money to a pro,for a top job.
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