Split charge relays, get em while they're hot!

Technical questions and answers about the Mazda Bongo

Moderators: Doone, westonwarrior

corblimey
Supreme Being
Posts: 14067
Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:37 am
Location: East Devon

Split charge relays, get em while they're hot!

Post by corblimey » Sat Aug 18, 2007 3:32 pm

Willinton is selling the 100a VSRs on ebay at the moment.

I've just had one and I think there's another on the go.
User avatar
dandywarhol
Supreme Being
Posts: 5446
Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:18 pm
Location: Edinburgh

Post by dandywarhol » Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:30 pm

The same relay is half the price form another vendor on evilbay :?
Whale oil beef hooked
Renault Lunar Telstar
Yamaha TD1C 250, Merc SLK200, KTM Duke 690
corblimey
Supreme Being
Posts: 14067
Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:37 am
Location: East Devon

Post by corblimey » Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:58 pm

Hi Dandy

Which one's that then? I can't find it.

The ones Willinton sells are voltage sensing whilst all the other Nagares I've seen are"dumb" relays even though they appear to have the same part number.

His are the only VSRs of this current rating I've found that are under ~ £60
User avatar
dandywarhol
Supreme Being
Posts: 5446
Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:18 pm
Location: Edinburgh

Post by dandywarhol » Sat Aug 18, 2007 5:11 pm

This one.......

280144493686

Same part number - I wonder how they differ if the number's the same :-k
Whale oil beef hooked
Renault Lunar Telstar
Yamaha TD1C 250, Merc SLK200, KTM Duke 690
corblimey
Supreme Being
Posts: 14067
Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:37 am
Location: East Devon

Post by corblimey » Sat Aug 18, 2007 5:21 pm

Does seem very odd to give two different porducts the same number!

They are clearly different though.

The one you found has the circuit diagram of a dumb relay printed on it and seperate trigger feeds. Willinton's has no trigger feeds and an earth connection + he clearly states it is a VSR.

I'm sure they are different and that Willinton's is worth the exta £££.
User avatar
dandywarhol
Supreme Being
Posts: 5446
Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:18 pm
Location: Edinburgh

Post by dandywarhol » Sat Aug 18, 2007 5:35 pm

Maybe willinton modifies the standard RL 180 12.
Well spotted corbimey
Whale oil beef hooked
Renault Lunar Telstar
Yamaha TD1C 250, Merc SLK200, KTM Duke 690
David Edwards
Supreme Being
Posts: 4100
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:37 pm
Location: Aberdare south wales

Post by David Edwards » Sat Aug 18, 2007 5:42 pm

Loads of people are now scatching their heads as to what split relays are and what they do, where they go and why we should have spares, not everyone is tech minded. :oops:
dp bradford
Bongolier
Posts: 446
Joined: Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:45 pm
Location: Idle, Bradford, West Yorkshire
Contact:

Post by dp bradford » Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:15 pm

David Edwards wrote:Loads of people are now scatching their heads as to what split relays are and what they do, where they go and why we should have spares, not everyone is tech minded. :oops:
It's wot you need to charge a leisure battery 8)
Image
User avatar
dandywarhol
Supreme Being
Posts: 5446
Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:18 pm
Location: Edinburgh

Post by dandywarhol » Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:33 pm

So, what do you suggest David? That the post goes into the "Campsites" forum???????

Corblimey put a post in which will be of use for people who know what they are. If folks want to know what they are then Google or similar will give the answer and everyone's happy :)

The same must surely apply for any forum - nobody knows everything :roll:
Whale oil beef hooked
Renault Lunar Telstar
Yamaha TD1C 250, Merc SLK200, KTM Duke 690
timhum

Post by timhum » Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:37 pm

Ahem, chaps,
I just bought it. Thanks for the heads up.
I thought my VSR. (another make) has not been working recently. That exchange of forum chat encouraged me to go out in the rain to check that it really was duff. It was and the replacement is on its way if I know Willington!
By the way, I tested the VSR by hooking up a charger and with 14.7 volts across the main battery, the little led on the VSR did not come on and the volts across the leisure battery were 12.6, showing that nothing was getting through, checked the fuses of course.
Cheers,
Tim
corblimey
Supreme Being
Posts: 14067
Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:37 am
Location: East Devon

Post by corblimey » Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:37 pm

David: the split charge relays I'm refereing, are as dp pointed out, for charging a leisure battery. The beauty of the one Williton sells compared to dumb relays is that it needs no connection to the alternator and hence it is dead easy to fit. Whats more they're a great price.

Anyway, looks like it's too late. His other one has now gone.

Until next time...
David Edwards
Supreme Being
Posts: 4100
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:37 pm
Location: Aberdare south wales

Post by David Edwards » Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:27 pm

No I think you are missing my point,no critisism intended to anyone but where is the harm in starting a thread with say "" look guys the slpit relay to charge the leisure batteries are on offer ETC"" see what I mean, I have a flat top so do not have a leisure battery and why should someone need to look in google if it can be included in the point in question, simple really and as far as I can see just bloody common sense. Happy motoring.
corblimey
Supreme Being
Posts: 14067
Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 11:37 am
Location: East Devon

Post by corblimey » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:42 pm

Point taken but I've written on the subject profusely, produced full instructions, a parts list and photographs explaining the need and fitting process in detail.

It's a topic the runs almost every week, in fact I believe there is a thread on the subject currently running (not this one) and I usually chime in recommeding a voltage sensing (intelligent) relay like the one this thread relates to.

I assumed, as Dandy pointed out, that if you knew what I was refering to you'd be interested and if not then proably not.

Appolgoies if my lack of common sense offened.
David Edwards
Supreme Being
Posts: 4100
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 6:37 pm
Location: Aberdare south wales

Post by David Edwards » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:53 pm

Good gracious no. no offence taken at all and a damn good idea re the fact sheet, as I said having a flat top I never needed one but I can see where the info you have produced would be of enormous benefit to free top owners. Happy motoring..
pippin

Post by pippin » Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:55 am

David, you refer to having a "flat top" - is that a reference to your head? Or even the cap that you wore when in the Force!

I know this is off message, but the police in North Wales wear black baseball caps - how naff. Totally robs them of any authority in my view.
Locked

Return to “Techie Stuff”