Bongo Fury

cmm303 wrote:

mikeonb4c wrote:

Northern Bongolow wrote:just found these night breaker unlimited which this review says are better than nigh breaker plus.

http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/H4-OSR ... -pair.html

Decided to buy and fit a pair of these. I THINK they're better than my old ones. They look a lot whiter/brighter viewed from the front but when driving the illumination is not hugely better. For those with somewhere to mount them, I can highly recommend a pair of 100W spots linked to come on with main beam and set to match the dipped headlight setting. Once you have this set up going, the brightness of headlight bulbs becomes of secondary importance as they provide a lot of really useful illumination. I have a 3 way switch for mine: off / on with lights / on only on main beam and when flashing headlights on main beam.

Mike, I agree with the nightbreaker unlimited. Appear brighter but the beam seems "empty" on the open road. I wonder if its something to do with the focusing.

Yup that's pretty much how I'd describe them. Fun to experiment I guess and I think they're at least as bright as the old ones, just little less yellow. At least I've now got a couple of spares

Quick update on the osram night breaker ultimates. I'm finding them a definite improvement on dipped beam with a nice pool of light. On main beam, they are less generous, so I may have to reset my nearside spot for further distance to get the best combination.

Right, back to Xmas

Hi
Mike...
That's about what I've found, but with 4 nightbreakers, as the dip stays on with the headlights on full beam....plus the 2 x 100 watt long-range driving lights on country lanes....
Yes....back to another bottle of bubbly!
Cheers
Helen

blobber wrote:Osram Nightbreaker bulbs are a good alternative and not too expensive.

How expensive I wonder, also are the bulbs in a 2002 model the same as all Bongo's

They are all H4 lamps so fit all the versions, unless you have the factory fitted or aftermarket HID lamps installed, in which case its rather obvious!
The H4 lamps are of the order of £15-£25 a pair. https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=h ... utf-8&aq=t

Interesting thread about bulbs, never thought that they would dim but thought they would just fail in time

which ones below are compatible then with a 2002 model please? I just want a brighter white light really because I do a lot of night driving on country roads during my work and appreciate a leg up here?

OSRAM NIGHT BREAKER UNLIMITED H7 halogen headlamp bulb 64210NBU-02B +110% more light and +20% whiter light
by Osram

OSRAM XENARC 66240XNB-HCB NIGHT BREAKER UNLIMITED D2S Xenon Headlamp Bulb27 Nov 2013
by Osram

£54.40

OSRAM NIGHT BREAKER UNLIMITED HB4 Headlight Bulbs (Twin Pack)11 Oct 2013

g8dhe wrote:They are all H4 lamps so fit all the versions, unless you have the factory fitted or aftermarket HID lamps installed, in which case its rather obvious!
The H4 lamps are of the order of £15-£25 a pair. https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=h ... utf-8&aq=t

Sorry bud nothing is obvious to me when it comes to electrics, I was a wood butcher in my prime, now I am an Anorak..

I think I have HiD although the bulbs look the same I have an odd (lump fitted to the headlight shell??) How can I know for sure?

If you have HID lights then they will have warning signs about HIGH VOLTAGE prominently displayed!
See this page for all the parts and what they look like for HID lights http://www.oemxenonshop.com/Mazda-Bongo ... ement.html
As opposed to simple H4 lamps;

HID lamps are distinguishable as they take a few seconds to warm up and you'd also have a level adjuster control into the right of the steering wheel. They tend to dim with age and sometimes go a bit pink in colour too. The OEM bulbs are Osram Xenarc DR2 units as I recall. They can be a little pricey so shop around first.

Simon Jones wrote:HID lamps are distinguishable as they take a few seconds to warm up and you'd also have a level adjuster control into the right of the steering wheel. They tend to dim with age and sometimes go a bit pink in colour too. The OEM bulbs are Osram Xenarc DR2 units as I recall. They can be a little pricey so shop around first.

This tells me they are HiDs then as I have exactly as you describe? Is this a good thing or bad regarding bulbs?

g8dhe wrote:If you have HID lights then they will have warning signs about HIGH VOLTAGE prominently displayed!
See this page for all the parts and what they look like for HID lights http://www.oemxenonshop.com/Mazda-Bongo ... ement.html
As opposed to simple H4 lamps;

Yep thats them?

HIDs are lower wattage (35w on the Bongo) but the output is brighter and cleaner that conventional halogen bulbs. There are a couple of factors that effect their output such as age and colour temperature which can range from yellow to white to blue. I think you the closer you get to white the more like daylight they look.

http://m1offroad.weebly.com/uploads/5/2 ... _w640.jpeg

Simon Jones wrote:HIDs are lower wattage (35w on the Bongo) but the output is brighter and cleaner that conventional halogen bulbs. There are a couple of factors that effect their output such as age and colour temperature which can range from yellow to white to blue. I think you the closer you get to white the more like daylight they look.

http://m1offroad.weebly.com/uploads/5/2 ... _w640.jpeg

Si,

Thanks for the info, Mine are all working fine but the van is 13 years old and assuming they have never been replaced I got to thinking that new ones must make a difference especially with the newer technology around these days. I have already changed the sides to LED which look fab. My problem is finding the right bulb at the right price. The description you gave me brings up many bulbs & variations, confusing ! Also on a vehicle type search the Bongo does not show up in the Mazda range.

I found these

http://www.powerbulbs.com/product/osram ... d-d2s-twin

But when you look for Zenarc you get Zenon??

Might as Mazda later today, need a laugh all that Xmassy stuff!"

These are the bulbs in mine:

- Dipped beam: type D2R 35W 85V, make Osram Xenarc (HiD) 66050
- Main beam: type HB3 60W, make Sylvania
- Indicator: type 203, 21W amber
- Side light: type 204 5W clear

I haven't checked the prices recently but I recall last time I looked they were somewhere north of £50 a pair.

Simon Jones wrote:These are the bulbs in mine:

- Dipped beam: type D2R 35W 85V, make Osram Xenarc (HiD) 66050
- Main beam: type HB3 60W, make Sylvania
- Indicator: type 203, 21W amber
- Side light: type 204 5W clear

I haven't checked the prices recently but I recall last time I looked they were somewhere north of £50 a pair.

Hope you did not go to the trouble of removing that for me but if you did I am grateful.

I will get on the trail when the hols are over. I am sure I can get the real deal somewhere local.

Thanks very much to you and others for your time