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Re: Cooling system
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:13 pm
by dandywarhol
I took it you were banging your head off the wall several times because you were unsure of the reason - that's why I posted a (what I thought was) a helpful reply.
Getting a bit p'd off of being treated like a naughty schoolboy by you TGP so I'm out of this topic now.
Re: Cooling system
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:28 pm
by haydn callow
my thoughts exactly for some time now Dandy....count me out as well
Re: Cooling system
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:53 pm
by Aethelric
The guru thing and superior attitude and silly smilies do get tedious after a while TGP.
Dave
Re: Cooling system
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:00 am
by The Great Pretender
Aethelric wrote:The guru thing and superior attitude and silly smilies do get tedious after a while TGP.
Dave
Sorry mate, just my sense of humour.
Didn't realise it is serious here.
Re: Cooling system
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:06 am
by Aethelric
The Great Pretender wrote:Aethelric wrote:The guru thing and superior attitude and silly smilies do get tedious after a while TGP.
Dave
Sorry mate, just my sense of humour.
Didn't realise it is serious here.
OK. Lets have some useful info from you, we all are now 100% certain that your bloody bottom hose is bloody cold all the bloody time. Now where the bloody hell is your bloody thermostat? Is it back as normal or still on the output from the head?
Re: Cooling system
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:32 am
by The Great Pretender
Aethelric wrote:The Great Pretender wrote:Aethelric wrote:The guru thing and superior attitude and silly smilies do get tedious after a while TGP.
Dave
Sorry mate, just my sense of humour.
Didn't realise it is serious here.
OK. Lets have some useful info from you, we all are now 100% certain that your bloody bottom hose is bloody cold all the bloody time. Now where the bloody hell is your bloody thermostat? Is it back as normal or still on the output from the head?[/quote
u want info............go back to page 1 of this thread.

Re: Cooling system
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:59 am
by Aethelric
The Great Pretender wrote:
u want info............go back to page 1 of this thread.

I was trying to find out if you had changed the system in the month since then, but we have just the usual unhelpful sort of reply.
Page 1 was where you said
Does anyone know why the stat is on the return?
As it only opens at 82c is anyone monitoring the max temp at the outlet from the head?
As the return to the stat is apparently always cool does the stat open?
Is anyone monitoring the pressure in the system?
Feel free to answer or add thoughts or other concerns.

You want answers, read the posts since, it's all there, and a lot more. The info won't relate directly to your bongo of course because you have changed the cooling path and it is working differently. But you could probably work out why your bottom hose is cold and everyone elses is warm if you bothered to read the posts.
Info on how the cooling circulates around yours would be interesting and it could be useful. For example, if your stat is closed there must be a much higher flow in the heaters as you have effectively not only blocked off the radiator but the header tank too. Blocking of paths will raise pressures.
But we have no useful info from you and you do not enter into the discussions other than with silly put downs.
I'm out of this thread.
Dave
Re: Cooling system
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:48 am
by brorabongo
NOW, NOW, boys and girls, can we please forget the last few

posts, and get back on to the seriously interesting coolant subject. It was going so well. All that will happen is, this thread will get locked aswell.
I have not contributed to the thread, as such, but there are others who are putting a lot of time, effort, and money into it. Lets not waste it all, please.
Re: Cooling system
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:11 pm
by Doone
Well said brorabongo. I think it's harder to discuss tricky issues on a forum, than 'face to face', because we can't see each others expressions.

If we could, we'd know that we're probably all singing from the same song sheet, trying to get to the bottom of something.

If we were all standing around the engine, with a few beers (or wine/coffee/tea!) it'd be much easier, with less risk of misunderstanding or upsets.

Re: Cooling system
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:14 pm
by Grahame at work
Hmmmmmmmm - this thread looks as though its run its course.
As it happens I don’t think that I can contribute much more at the moment. The diagram is going to take me a while to bring up to the level I’m going to be happy with and as I said earlier I intend to experiment further with my differential temperature measurements and ECU sensor measurements.
My objective is to try and find a way of showing that the stat does actually work and that the cooling fans operate in a logical manor. The ultimate aim is to understand how the cooling system operates in a dynamic situation and by this understand if there are any weak points that need monitoring to prevent the dreaded overheating.
I think that is everybody’s contribution has been helpful at one time or another in this thread.
When I’ve got something useful to add I’ll come back but I expect it to take quite a while to experiment over a period of time to get meaningful data.
Regards Grahame
Re: Cooling system
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:47 pm
by Simon Jones
This has been a fascinating thread & I think we've all learned lots of stuff as result. As Doone has pointed out, a 'face to face' discussion may be a more productive way to get to the definitive answer on how it all works. For those of us going to to the Bongo Bash in June, why don't we organise a session where we can review people's observations & report back with our findings?
Re: Cooling system
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:55 pm
by Ian
That's an excellent idea Simon. I'll add it to the list of activities.
And I think we have reached the end of the discussion, so this thread is now locked.