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Switches that operate lights and alarms

Post by cushers » Sat May 30, 2015 11:33 pm

Hi

The little switches that sit against the bottom off the front doors and pop out to operate the lights and key in the ignition alarm.

Are the passengers and drivers side ones interchangeable?

Drivers one popped out and seems to be embedded in polystyrene. Passengers side does not. Any thoughts?

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Re: Switches that operate lights and alarms

Post by Simon Jones » Sun May 31, 2015 12:00 am

They are interchangeable and look to be a fairly standard size so you could probably get a suitable replacement from the likes of Halfords.

This one may fit although you'd need to chop a bit off the length: http://www.halfords.com/motoring-travel ... ger-switch

What was the problem with current one? Can't visualise the polystyrene thing you mentioned.
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Re: Switches that operate lights and alarms

Post by cushers » Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:00 am

Thanks Simon. When I removed the drivers side one completely there is a a polystyrene block with a hole for the switch to fit in to. That's the best way to describe it. This isn't there on the passenger side and it doesn't look it's a retro fit.


Thanks for the other info too. Sounds like the polystyrene isn't that crucial so will hack it out to get better access to the connector. Mine is a Freda in case that makes any difference.

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Re: Switches that operate lights and alarms

Post by Simon Jones » Mon Jun 01, 2015 12:39 pm

It sounds like someone previously has done some modifications. There should be an identical switch for both sides which is held in place by a screw that also forms the earth connection. Any chance you can add a photo so we can see what it looks like?
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Re: Switches that operate lights and alarms

Post by cushers » Mon Jun 01, 2015 10:43 pm

Will try with the photos. Need to get a photo bucket or similar account. I have dug more of it out and it looks more like an open cell injected foam which could make getting to the connection a tad difficult. Will dig further and give it a jiggle.

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Re: Switches that operate lights and alarms

Post by Simon Jones » Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:16 pm

Some photos from cushers that show the sill contains expanding foam. This is definitely not normal as it should be free to allow any water to drain out. I would be checking the sills very carefully to ensure they are 100% steel.

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Re: Switches that operate lights and alarms

Post by cushers » Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:20 pm

Thanks for doing that simon. Sills are soon to be replaced so we will see. Think moister had been trapped then corroded the drivers side button switch. Hence the thought of swapping.

Thanks again

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Re: Switches that operate lights and alarms

Post by mikeWalsall » Tue Jun 02, 2015 1:45 pm

It is common practice by some to inject cavities / door / bonnet / strengthening bars with expanding polyurethane type 'builders' foam .. Is it that ..??
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Re: Switches that operate lights and alarms

Post by cushers » Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:21 pm

I believe it is mike. All now becoming clear. Getting there.
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Re: Switches that operate lights and alarms

Post by Simon Jones » Tue Jun 02, 2015 5:42 pm

mikeWalsall wrote:It is common practice by some to inject cavities / door / bonnet / strengthening bars with expanding polyurethane type 'builders' foam .. Is it that ..??
Only if you're Richard Hammond building an amphibious 'dampervan' :)
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Re: Switches that operate lights and alarms

Post by helen&tony » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:36 am

Hi
I just can't imagine what kind of idiot puts foam in a hollow section ...unless they want to speed up the rust process....especially if wiring is in the cavity....it can do unimaginable damage.
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Re: Switches that operate lights and alarms

Post by cushers » Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:24 am

Helen & Tony,

Unfortunately I don't have to imagine the damage! I can see it. Thanks to everyone for their time and advice. Have ordered new buttons and should have my lights on alarm back on the drivers side in a week or so.

On to the next job now.
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Re: Switches that operate lights and alarms

Post by mikeWalsall » Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:48 am

On Japanese .. Philippines .. Malayan sites it is common to see tutorials on injecting expanding foam around bracing strips .. cavities etc: to quieten the ride / eliminate panel drumming: ..

Even in England before the aerosol came along some 'Rally driver types' used to use two pack polyurethane expanding foam to stiffen up the chassis /cills / box sections etc: ..

I often wondered if in trapping damp (I never thought about wires to be honest) if it was actually practical ..
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Re: Switches that operate lights and alarms

Post by helen&tony » Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:19 pm

cushers wrote:Helen & Tony,

Unfortunately I don't have to imagine the damage! I can see it. Thanks to everyone for their time and advice. Have ordered new buttons and should have my lights on alarm back on the drivers side in a week or so.

On to the next job now.
Graeme
Hi Graeme...
At least you're getting the sills done...BIG bonus, really!
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Re: Switches that operate lights and alarms

Post by cushers » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:01 pm

All sorted now.

I used one of these
http://www.thetoolboxshop.com/0-486-00- ... -2344.html

almost identical to the original.

Thanks for the help and advice.

The list gets shorter now

Graeme
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