Haydn Temperature alarm cable sensor routing..

[BongoBongo123]

I could contact Haydn direct but I am in no crazy rush because I am awaiting a new socket set to arrive over the years I did not realize how few tools I have !

So there is a little bolt and piece of paper with recommended place for the temp sensor. I need
to remove the rear vertical panel of the engine cover at the back between front seats... should not be a problem once my sockets appear (the 10mm tiny spanner I have cannot get the floor bolts undone).. I am however wondering how you can route the sensor cable out from the engine bay without trapping it between the bay and the flush fitting panel held on with about 8 x 10mm bolts ?

Any drilling required? I will I have to run the cable through the engine bay and get it out under the seats? Or is there a more direct route where it can come under the carpet under the console to where I mount the read out head unit under the dash where I can see it through the steering wheel.

I am imagining the close exit possible is preferable so the sensor cable is not routed over a hot engine.

I thought I might post here as it might help someone else fitting a Haydn temp alarm.
cheers

[david3661]

Hi, I did the same thing recently and if yours is the same as mine there is a small rectangular slot in the cover. If you cut a small hole in the soundproofing (bonded to the other side) you can route it through there - I had to open it out a little with a file to allow the eye on the lead to go through, but it was pretty straightforward. And I also used a wiring sleeve to protect it from chafing.

Regards,

David.

[BongoBongo123]

Hi, I did the same thing recently and if yours is the same as mine there is a small rectangular slot in the cover. If you cut a small hole in the soundproofing (bonded to the other side) you can route it through there - I had to open it out a little with a file to allow the eye on the lead to go through, but it was pretty straightforward. And I also used a wiring sleeve to protect it from chafing.

Regards,

David.

Nice one David yes I saw that... but could not clearly see what it was al about without complete removal which I need those sockets for. Good shout and welcome... a great first post.

[winchman]

Have a look in my photos here ( ignore the display box mounting position as you cant see it whilst driving so I moved mine to the cubby box in front of the gear lever).
http://s1270.photobucket.com/user/winch ... t=3&page=1

I think this is the best way to enter the engine bay as the seal around the seat base seals any gap, I just kept it in place with a bit of duct tape.
http://s1270.photobucket.com/user/winch ... sort=3&o=5

[Simon Jones]

This was my solution: http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... er#p619824

I'd be nervous of running wires that get trapped anywhere as they will be more prone to damage.

[BongoBongo123]

Ok both of those solutions running the temp sensor wire over the top of the full length of the engine then..... hmmm through the rear of the engine plate panel and on top of the bulkhead under the centre console carpet seems safer than resting on top of the engine in my mind. Though simplicity sometiems makes life easy I guess if it is well attached to strong points with cable ties.

I will await the socket set then i can assess the options. Great help again chaps.

I have bought a double ciggy output adapter so I can have Satnav and temp gauge in. I am not confident enough to wire it is permanently myself. (although I am guessing it would be quite easy in reality)

[haydn callow]

Please don't use the ciggy socket cos you can be sure it will be unplugged the day you need it..wire into any ignition switched live feed.

[BongoBongo123]

Please don't use the ciggy socket cos you can be sure it will be unplugged the day you need it..wire into any ignition switched live feed.

I am getting on but quite sure I can remember that, though i appreciate the warning. Driving a Bongo almost seems like you are waiting for the coolant to leak out and your engine to overheat it's second on the list from turning the ignition key. Sure seems that way on this forum.

I still don't really trust it and am not sure I ever will. That keeps you on your toes so plugging that in will just become second nature. In any event I am not using the Bongo as a local runner it is for cruising, camping, festivals and weekends away.

[Gasy]

If you don't want to cut cables use a piggyback fuse in fusebox next to drivers knee
Because you will forget to plug it in to the ciggy socket

[Simon Jones]

Friend of mine is an auto electrician and one the most frequent problems he sees is the cigarette lighter fuse blowing due to folk continually plugging in sat navs or phone chargers. With the socket also being in easy knocking distance of your left knee, the chances of it not being powered when you most need it is increased.

[BongoBongo123]

Friend of mine is an auto electrician and one the most frequent problems he sees is the cigarette lighter fuse blowing due to folk continually plugging in sat navs or phone chargers. With the socket also being in easy knocking distance of your left knee, the chances of it not being powered when you most need it is increased.

Surely it is meant to be there to be used? If that was the case it would be blowing every time someone lit a fag. A cigarette lighter must drain 10 amps or so a sat nav 1 amp a thermometer 0.1 or so.

I will see how I get on. Sat nav is in and out on my other car.. never a blown fuse ever. Not wishing to go against good advice but this argument does not seem to have any logic to it considering a satnav and temp are very low power devices compared to heating a red hot element up.

[haydn callow]

The wiring to some parts of the Bongo is flimsy to say the least....
Your temp gauge is so easy to wire in to the power feeds.
Any owner living local would be happy to help.
At least I would hope they would.
It's only recently we have been sending the alarms out with ciggy plugs attached....that's how they arrive from Oz....

[BongoBongo123]

Hi, I did the same thing recently and if yours is the same as mine there is a small rectangular slot in the cover. If you cut a small hole in the soundproofing (bonded to the other side) you can route it through there - I had to open it out a little with a file to allow the eye on the lead to go through, but it was pretty straightforward. And I also used a wiring sleeve to protect it from chafing.

Regards,

David.

Unfortunately I am not seeing any slots through the metal plate it is a solid unbroken plate on my Bongo. So it seems like through the engine bay is the only option unless I drill.

[haydn callow]

Just bring it over the edge of where the seat seals.....bring the wire over, put a bit of protective tube over it and the rubber seat seal will stop it from being damaged....then over the top past the handbrake etc and on under the dash

[BongoBongo123]

Just bring it over the edge of where the seat seals.....bring the wire over, put a bit of protective tube over it and the rubber seat seal will stop it from being damaged....then over the top past the handbrake etc and on under the dash

Yes indeed thanks Haydn.. there is actually an almost cable sized join in the metal work housings near the front inside seat seals, near/on console which is near perfect so there is very little pressure on the cable. It is installed, I cable tied to decent looking but not heat producing parts through the bay. And afterall thats what the supplied split pipe is for. I will test it later when it's cooled down it is so hot I am roasting to death inside the Bongo. (probably a good day to test it but its supposed to be hot all week)

The most difficult thing was getting the 10mm bolts out (and back in) off the rear housing (especially the one with the hand brake cable exactly where the bolt was as I had to use a spanner) I could not wait for my sockets and got a 4 way 8 10 12 14mm with cross bar spanner from Poundland. Did the job.

For now it is functional the main thing (off ciggy lighter for now) I am sure I will finesse the installation of the dash board parts and wire it in direct in due course (not on a sweltering day though)

Really appreciate all the input such great people here.

And I know the Bongo cooling is fine really it's just I keep my eyes glued to the installed dash temp gauge through fearing something going wrong. I have done a quite a few little runs and it has not missed a beat so I am pretty sure all is well anyway but this is doubly secure now with the digital one installed.