Why does the front heater blow very hot when it's set cold?

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Why does the front heater blow very hot when it's set cold?

Post by paulim » Mon Jun 09, 2014 5:55 am

Just sat in a lot of traffic in the queue for Volksfest and although I was pleased to see the temperature gauge was rock solid despite the hot day, I was disappointed to feel that the front heater was blowing very hot even though it was set to cold. The rear, however, blew almost cool. The aircon button makes little difference for either despite the previous owners having recharged it a year or two ago.

Anyone else had this problem? Anyone else found a solution?

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Post by Gasy » Mon Jun 09, 2014 6:45 am

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Post by paulim » Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:49 am

Hi, thanks for your reply. I haven't really had time to check which levers you mean (presumably behind the lower steering column fascia?) but the heater selects hot and cold in "normal" (ie this morning!) weather conditions, it seems it's only a problem when the weather's hot (ie when you really need it cold!).
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Post by Driver+Passengers » Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:10 am

There is a level for "winter/summer" on the plastic air intake hood just under the bonnet - I can never remember which way round it is, but in the "winter" setting, it will draw air up in from the under-bonnet area - in "summer", it will draw air in from outside.
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Post by mikeonb4c » Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:12 am

Driver+Passengers wrote:There is a level for "winter/summer" on the plastic air intake hood just under the bonnet - I can never remember which way round it is, but in the "winter" setting, it will draw air up in from the under-bonnet area - in "summer", it will draw air in from outside.
I don't think mine has one of these - are they fitted to all models?
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Post by Driver+Passengers » Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:19 am

mikeonb4c wrote:
Driver+Passengers wrote:There is a level for "winter/summer" on the plastic air intake hood just under the bonnet - I can never remember which way round it is, but in the "winter" setting, it will draw air up in from the under-bonnet area - in "summer", it will draw air in from outside.
I don't think mine has one of these - are they fitted to all models?
Possibly not. Perhaps only the "northern" Bongos...? It might explain warm(er) air on a cold setting. It will never blow colder than ambient without A/C, though.
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Post by Muzorewa » Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:44 am

Don't forget that the coolant is freely circulating through the heater even when you set it to cold, it's just the flaps that direct the heat into the cabin or otherwise depending on how you have them set :wink:
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Post by mikeWalsall » Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:25 am

The air flap control under the bonnet on some Bongos, is to direct hot / colder air into the engines air intake system .. not the cars interior ..

The one place to look when you have 'iffy' interior heating, is the control linkage at the bottom of the heater 'box' (by your feet) as the clips / linkage are known to part company ..

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Re: Why does the front heater blow very hot when it's set co

Post by g8dhe » Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:35 am

Check the linkage between the servo and the heat control vane inside the air box, its down in the passenger foot well;
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Post by Driver+Passengers » Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:52 am

mikeWalsall wrote:The air flap control under the bonnet on some Bongos, is to direct hot / colder air into the engines air intake system .. not the cars interior ..
The engine air intake is in behind the offside headlight, the flap in the center housing is definitely directing air towards the blower fan. I've always thought that there should be a filter in there, too... perhaps all are removed on import?
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Post by Muzorewa » Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:08 am

mikeonb4c wrote:
Driver+Passengers wrote:There is a level for "winter/summer" on the plastic air intake hood just under the bonnet - I can never remember which way round it is, but in the "winter" setting, it will draw air up in from the under-bonnet area - in "summer", it will draw air in from outside.
I don't think mine has one of these - are they fitted to all models?
Only the northern (twin battery) ones :wink:
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Post by g8dhe » Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:52 pm

It seems to vary mine isn't a Northern Japan one but has the adjuster it also has a filter in the air intake which others don't have;
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Post by Driver+Passengers » Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:54 pm

g8dhe wrote:it also has a filter in the air intake which others don't have;
Is the air filter rectangular, situated between the fan housing and that long, flat scoop?
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Post by g8dhe » Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:04 pm

Its the long black thing that the three yellow arrows point at its a very coarse filter that lifts out upwards out of the air scoop above the radiator.
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Post by Driver+Passengers » Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:24 pm

Oh... :shock:
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