Motion Potion Troubles

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Re: Motion Potion Troubles

Post by Slojo » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:55 pm

I got it from Ian and it was £29.00 well worth it
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Re: Motion Potion Troubles

Post by The Great Pretender » Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:34 am

Slojo wrote:Hi
Thanks this is giving me a direction to go. I have a 12v lift pump I'll try that. Do you know how easy a seal would be to fit?

Fit the lift pump, if it solves the problem it is a pump of job to replace the front seal. Simple job, did mine and the other seals when off. :wink:
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Re: Motion Potion Troubles

Post by Slojo » Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:08 am

Where did you source the parts from
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Re: Motion Potion Troubles

Post by briwy » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:01 am

Bear in mind that the fly by wire pumps are different so make sure you can get/fit the bits before you start ripping it apart.
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Re: Motion Potion Troubles

Post by windywatson » Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:46 pm

What and were would the lift pump need to be installed and where would I buy one?
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Re: Motion Potion Troubles

Post by Slojo » Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:51 pm

Hi Windy
I don't think a lift pump would do you any good as you have an electric pump factory fitted. I think your problem is fuel evaporation, I would get the scavenger fan working first.
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Re: Motion Potion Troubles

Post by windywatson » Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:17 pm

Yep, see your reasoning. I'll get the temperature sensor ordered from Ian as the first step.

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Re: Motion Potion Troubles

Post by Simon Jones » Mon Jan 27, 2014 8:33 pm

Windy, I think the fact that it happens on LPG too eliminates anything in the fuel supply system. I would be looking at cam or crank position sensors as these have been known to play up when hot resulting in a poor spark.
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Re: Motion Potion Troubles

Post by skater » Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:58 pm

Years ago now mine kept stalling when warmed up, after longer journeys etc.

All I did was wash the filler cap in soapy water.

Never had a problem since, touch wood.
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Re: Motion Potion Troubles

Post by Slojo » Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:21 pm

Hi All
Thanks to Supreme Being you got it right with the front pump seal, it looked okay until we tried to remove it then it just crumbled up. Should get the pump back tomorrow ( took it to a diesel pump specialist as these pumps are not readily available and I didn't want to damage it )
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Re: Motion Potion Troubles

Post by Bob » Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:06 pm

Nice one, thanks for the update. :D
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Re: Motion Potion Troubles

Post by Slojo » Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:57 pm

Ok Then got the pump back, refitted it bled the system started it up! hunts like a sick pig and the heater light flashes. Checked the vacuum pipes haven't been knocked off, checked all the pump connections, still at least it didn't stall! Apparently as an aside the fuel pump specialists ( who was really excellent )
reckons that Bio fuel is the reason the seals go hard, and the Japanese are really into Bio fuels.
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Re: Motion Potion Troubles

Post by Slojo » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:13 pm

At last have got it all sorted, it turned out the FIP drive gear had jumped a tooth when I reassembled the engine. managed to get it back in the right place, the Bongo now runs nice. and doesn't stall out when the tank gets low.
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Re: Motion Potion Troubles

Post by Bob » Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:31 pm

That's worth knowing, thanks. =D>
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