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vanishing coolant

Post by v8griffith » Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:13 pm

Hi all
Can anyone advise---

I seem to be loosing coolant but I don't seem to have any leaks?
I am dong approx 80 mile per day in 2 40 mile trips to work and back at around 70mph
There is no overheating and the temp gauge doesn't move over 11 o'clock and there is no running or starting problems or unusual emissions?
I am having to fill my expansion tank about every 300 miles and it takes approx 1 litre to fill to 'full level'.
Does this mean that my head is damaged or the head gasket has failed? If so is there any way to tell without pulling it to bits? or could there be another cause for the disappearing coolant?

Many thanks in advance from a new owner and member

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Re: vanishing coolant

Post by wonkanoby » Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:24 am

some leaks like the water pump lower are very hard to spot

you can buy a uv dye and uv torch on ebay might help
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Re: vanishing coolant

Post by v8griffith » Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:49 am

Thanks for that suggestion I will give that a go.
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Re: vanishing coolant

Post by Driver+Passengers » Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:13 pm

Worth doing a pressure test.

Get a spare header tank cap, remove the lower seal/spring (damaging it) and then use a bike pump with pressure gauge to inflate the system, via the rubber overflow pipe coming out of the header tank, to around 10psi - I used an old bike inner tube for the valve and hose-clamped it into the end of the hose. If you see the pressure fall and you've got a leak somewhere. If you do have a leak and it's really hard to spot then if you can get somewhere quiet, dry and under cover, remove the undertrays, put some newspaper down and look for any drops reaching the ground.
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Re: vanishing coolant

Post by Northern Bongolow » Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:27 pm

water pump at the bottom hole behind the crank pulley.
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Re: vanishing coolant

Post by v8griffith » Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:05 am

Thanks for the tip on how to pressure test the cooling system I will give that a go. Would you happen to know if the header tank cap is bongo specific or if you can get one from motor accessories stores?

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Re: vanishing coolant

Post by wonkanoby » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:25 am

Just be sure its 1.1 bar
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Re: vanishing coolant

Post by haydn callow » Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:01 am

Shouldn't the caps be 1.1 on the rad and 0.9 on the header tank.....reason being you would want the tank cap to 'blow' first
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Re: vanishing coolant

Post by rita » Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:26 am

haydn callow wrote:Shouldn't the caps be 1.1 on the rad and 0.9 on the header tank.....reason being you would want the tank cap to 'blow' first

Hi,both caps should be the same (value).
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Re: vanishing coolant

Post by haydn callow » Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:10 pm

Not so sure about that.......if that was the case then the rad 'might' blow first....not what we want on a bongo or any other vehicle for that matter
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Re: vanishing coolant

Post by haydn callow » Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:15 pm

I agree that on a rad without a outlet stub it makes no differance......however some rads do have stubs so it is best to safe as not everyone knows what is ment by stub and seal it off etc......
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Re: vanishing coolant

Post by rita » Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:36 pm

haydn callow wrote:Not so sure about that.......if that was the case then the rad 'might' blow first....not what we want on a bongo or any other vehicle for that matter

Its a fact as specified by Mazda. :)
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Re: vanishing coolant

Post by haydn callow » Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:41 pm

If you have a Mazda rad in your bongo you only need a pressure cap on the ex tank.....any old thing will do on the rad
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