Bongo surges when put into gear.

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Bongo surges when put into gear.

Post by rochford » Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:36 pm

My Bongo (auto, diesel) is very difficult to start, when she finally does go and I put her into gear, she will shoot forwards at high revs. If I let her sit and warm up, she moves off normally. What are the most likely causes for poor starting and surging forwards (or backwards if in reverse)
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Re: Bongo surges when put into gear.

Post by jaylee » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:31 pm

Hi, what is the approximate idle speed in rpm...?

Sounds like the idle screw may need adjusting..??? (in the blue circle.)

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The solenoid thing shown here releases as the engine warms up... A bit like a choke??

The starting issue maybe something different? Can you be more specific with the starting symptoms..?
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Re: Bongo surges when put into gear.

Post by wonkanoby » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:09 pm

sounds like you need new glow plugs

and the fast idle adjusted
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Re: Bongo surges when put into gear.

Post by Northern Bongolow » Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:15 pm

what year is the diesel.
fuel filter? or banjo filter.
or is the underside of the fuel pump wet with fuel, under the centre?
if its an early model the tps on the top of the pump is acting up. maybe.
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Re: Bongo surges when put into gear.

Post by jaylee » Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:36 am

Northern Bongolow wrote:what year is the diesel.
fuel filter? or banjo filter.
or is the underside of the fuel pump wet with fuel, under the centre?
if its an early model the tps on the top of the pump is acting up. maybe.
Could the cold start idle screw have been set wrong/too high to compensate for all/some of this..? Hence the erratic nature??
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Re: Bongo surges when put into gear.

Post by Northern Bongolow » Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:53 pm

yes it could jamie. as you know any of these could affect it.
the weird bit is the surging.
sounds like its either going above the glow plug rev limit, (950 revs) so being turned off/on. or the battery could be low. or it could be sucking air into the system somewhere.

point him to some of your very helpful threads =D> :wink:
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Re: Bongo surges when put into gear.

Post by teenmal » Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:10 am

Hi rochford,it could be injectors/turbo leaking oil into the air intake/inlet manifold Gunged up or even some petrol in the tank.Is there any sign of heavy blue/black smoke at start up.

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Re: Bongo surges when put into gear.

Post by rochford » Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:45 pm

Thanks for all replies. Will try out these suggestion over the coming week.
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