V6 Airlift suspension kit

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Re: V6 Airlift suspension kit

Post by mikeonb4c » Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:21 pm

mentaliss wrote:
mikeonb4c wrote:Would I be right in saying that putting the Bongo on axle stands (if literally placed under the rear axle) would not allow the suspension to be unloaded. I guess the vehicle could be jacked on the axle and then the stands placed somewhere else (the scissor jacking points for example?)?
To start with for your own safety I should say you should use a pair of spring compressor clamps (£20-27) but its quite a simple task but time consuming. Place your two stands under the rear axle make sure there seated on the axle tube, release the jack move the jack under the one spring seat, pump up till the axle just release's from the axle tube take out the stand pin, don't take the stand away, now slowly release the jack until the spring drops away from the upper spring seat you can now either use a 2x2" length of wood or a decent pry bar...pry the spring out of the lower seat..you don't need to remove the spring! lubricate the air bag (silicone grease/spray) and insert the bag into the spring...the rest should be straight forward, the cost, your time, spring clamps and tea!
PS, I have done three vehicles using this method without any problems 8)
Thanks for your reply mentaliss - missed it when it came in.
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Re: V6 Airlift suspension kit

Post by Jim the Box » Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:39 am

wonkanoby wrote:has yours been lowered
Think mine has been lowered, scuffing some of the speed bumps, would fitting the kit help or how do I raise to normal height?
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Re: V6 Airlift suspension kit

Post by MountainGoat » Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:58 am

Jim I would think that the first you should check that the bump stops are still in place it might be that or you just taking the speed bumps a tad too fast. Thankfully there are no Sleeping Policemen around my part of the town.

As far as I am aware the difference is in the rear springs. If your Bongo has been lowered then I think that the original springs have been replaced by lowering springs but I might be wrong. If I am right you will need to take off the lowering springs and replace them with normal springs. Ady should be able to source you a pair from his tame Bongo breaker.

When you have done the job don't forget to put your lowering springs up for sale, it seems that there is a market for them.

Only four weeks now to the the Red Squirrel Campsite meet in Glencoe. If you leave your problem until then you will be able to compare the height ride of your Bongo with the others that turn up for the meet.

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Re: V6 Airlift suspension kit

Post by teenmal » Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:14 pm

Hi Jim the Box,

you can measure the distance between the centre of the wheel arch to the ground it should be approx 29 inches,735mm.

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Re: V6 Airlift suspension kit

Post by New Forest Terrier » Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:32 pm

A useful garage for fitting unusual bits to Bongos is AJC classics in Hythe, New Forest. They do the LPG conversion for Budget Bongos in Southampton, plus any work required on V6's. They are Jag specialists and restore classic cars, so will be used to racing and other modified suspensions.
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Re: V6 Airlift suspension kit

Post by windywatson » Sun Sep 09, 2012 2:09 pm

Hi,

Just to add to the thread, when I did the air lift on my van I found that also removing the lower bolts from the rear shocks allowed the rear axle to drop a few more inches which made all the difference in removing the spring. In fact you could probably have done the job without as the gap would have been wide enough to feed the collapsed bag in. Having studied all options my inlet faces down and goes through the nice big opening in the bottom spring housing. Fitted the schrader valve on small bracket off tow bar.

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Re: V6 Airlift suspension kit

Post by Jim the Box » Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:54 pm

MountainGoat wrote:Jim I would think that the first you should check that the bump stops are still in place it might be that or you just taking the speed bumps a tad too fast. Thankfully there are no Sleeping Policemen around my part of the town.

As far as I am aware the difference is in the rear springs. If your Bongo has been lowered then I think that the original springs have been replaced by lowering springs but I might be wrong. If I am right you will need to take off the lowering springs and replace them with normal springs. Ady should be able to source you a pair from his tame Bongo breaker.

When you have done the job don't forget to put your lowering springs up for sale, it seems that there is a market for them.

Only four weeks now to the the Red Squirrel Campsite meet in Glencoe. If you leave your problem until then you will be able to compare the height ride of your Bongo with the others that turn up for the meet.

I intend going to the meet, may even go up to red squirrel on the friday, so I will leave it till then and drive carefully over the bumps which I'm afraid are everywhere in my area.
Jim

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Re: V6 Airlift suspension kit

Post by Jim the Box » Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:53 pm

Jim the Box wrote:
MountainGoat wrote:Jim I would think that the first you should check that the bump stops are still in place it might be that or you just taking the speed bumps a tad too fast. Thankfully there are no Sleeping Policemen around my part of the town.

As far as I am aware the difference is in the rear springs. If your Bongo has been lowered then I think that the original springs have been replaced by lowering springs but I might be wrong. If I am right you will need to take off the lowering springs and replace them with normal springs. Ady should be able to source you a pair from his tame Bongo breaker.

When you have done the job don't forget to put your lowering springs up for sale, it seems that there is a market for them.

Only four weeks now to the the Red Squirrel Campsite meet in Glencoe. If you leave your problem until then you will be able to compare the height ride of your Bongo with the others that turn up for the meet.

I intend going to the meet, may even go up to red squirrel on the friday, so I will leave it till then and drive carefully over the bumps which I'm afraid are everywhere in my area.
Jim

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Sorry Tony
seemed to have mixed up my quote I am going to the meet at red squirrel and will take any advice on offer suspension looks low and is really firm will compare at the meet,
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Re: V6 Airlift suspension kit

Post by Jim the Box » Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:32 pm

teenmal wrote:Hi Jim the Box,

you can measure the distance between the centre of the wheel arch to the ground it should be approx 29 inches,735mm.

Cheers.
Rear is 27.75" and front is 28" on 205x65x15 wheels sorry about the delay replying could not find a tape measure

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