new head causing knocking (HELP)

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new head causing knocking (HELP)

Post by adamhardwidge » Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:11 pm

Recently fitted new head, water pump head gasket and bolts, now im getting a loud knocking (sounds like detonation), checked injectors and timing, tappetts, vacuum pipes etc, still no change, please does anyone have any ideas to help me
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Re: new head causing knocking (HELP)

Post by Northern Bongolow » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:11 pm

warped manifold ??

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Re: new head causing knocking (HELP)

Post by David Edwards » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:23 pm

Is it "diesel Knock" does it go when you get to a certain speed, is the timing definitely correct, the mixture right, all worth checking. So I have been told re mine,lol.
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Re: new head causing knocking (HELP)

Post by adamhardwidge » Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:26 am

have not thought of warped manifold but it was fine until new head fitted due to cracked head, the timing marks all line up perfect, it does'nt do it on tick over only when accelerating and revving though the range, if you move the fuel pump it did stop but come straight back again, im running out of ideas
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Re: new head causing knocking (HELP)

Post by Simon Jones » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:06 am

Put your location in your profile as someone local may be able to assist or suggest a Bongo specialist in your area.
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Re: new head causing knocking (HELP)

Post by mikeonb4c » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:06 am

Get Bongo or diesel specialist to look at it?
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Re: new head causing knocking (HELP)

Post by Northern Bongolow » Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:34 pm

did you/they check the manifold before refitting, they are really prone to warping, especially no1 stud nearest the alternator.
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Re: new head causing knocking (HELP)

Post by adamhardwidge » Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:58 pm

to be fare i didn't check the manifold but using a stethoscope, it sounds more to the rear of the engine, near the bottom the head, and discovered, if you move the fuel pump, it will stop for 2 mins then comes straight back weird.
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Re: new head causing knocking (HELP)

Post by Northern Bongolow » Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:22 pm

as the cam is timed off the fuel pump ???. rip the rocker off if you havnt done already. did you set the gaps yourself, as some have come to grieff with presuming a built up head was ready to go and not set the valve gaps correctly, or the nuts come loose etc.
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Re: new head causing knocking (HELP)

Post by teenmal » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:03 am

Hi Adam,

If you slacken each injector pipe in turn,and the noise disappears this will tell you what cylinder to look at.

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Re: new head causing knocking (HELP)

Post by adamhardwidge » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:10 am

Hi thanks for all your replys, i have set all rockers and slacked them off but still there, also undone injectors revs drop but noise still there when revving, getting worried now p.s the manifold is not warped lol
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Re: new head causing knocking (HELP)

Post by briwy » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:23 am

This may sound daft but are you sure that when the head was fitted nothing dropped into one of the cylinders.
It happened to me years ago on a Mini engine. Horrendous noise, took the plugs out and found a small washer on one of the cylinders, not much damage fortunatley, just a few scratches on top of the piston.
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Re: new head causing knocking (HELP)

Post by helen&tony » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:43 am

Hi
New Head???
COULD, I say COULD be the cambelt slipped a notch if it was not set properly???
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Re: new head causing knocking (HELP)

Post by adamhardwidge » Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:57 am

Cam belt all set properly and double checked, changed the very old fuel filter does anyone knkw how to bleed the system properly.....
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Re: new head causing knocking (HELP)

Post by mikeonb4c » Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:59 pm

adamhardwidge wrote:Cam belt all set properly and double checked, changed the very old fuel filter does anyone knkw how to bleed the system properly.....
Although the manual may say otherwise, I've yet to hear of a Bongo pump that doesn't self-prime, if thats what you are asking (apologies if not). Mine never has needed bleeding/priming.
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