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low temp protection screen wash

Post by Northern Bongolow » Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:11 am

just doing some asking round the local motor factors and garages today about low temp protection windscreen wash adative.
shell petrol station on m6, selling carplan low temp protection s/wash, so i asked what temps it protects too, no idea said the assistant, and it was not written on the container. #-o #-o .
local factors had 4 diff ones and only one had it on the container, down to -15 deg c (not good enough if last winter is anything to go by).
bluecol do one down to -25 deg c if im correct, but cannot find it sold.

anyone else found a good one, last year i blew/froze the bottom out of a screenwasher motor and dont wish to repeat.
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Re: low temp protection screen wash

Post by mikeWalsall » Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:33 am

I use this ...(I think I paid £5.99 though..!!)

http://www.lidl.co.uk/cps/rde/xchg//SID ... IDNOTFOUND
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Post by jaylee » Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:52 am

Double the damage to paint work/rust promotion then..? :-k


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Re: low temp protection screen wash

Post by mikeWalsall » Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:59 am

Original poster just asked about a low temperature screen wash ..nowt else ..!!

I use the Lidl one in a hand squirty bottle for frosted windscreens and it seem OK ..
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Re: low temp protection screen wash

Post by helen&tony » Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:49 am

Hi Ady...
we get a lot of stuff here proof to minus 60 C, and I only look for stuff written in English, knowing that local stuff could contain absolutely anything....and I like my paint.
Next time I go to the city, I'll look for the make, and I think you can source it in the UK from what I remember of the label
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Re: low temp protection screen wash

Post by downward dog » Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:23 am

I use the Lidl liquid stuff every year, as per the link above...... now on the Bongo as well as our other car, I vary the dilution in the summer, and then strengthen it as the dark days approach. What's all this about paintwork damage?
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Post by briwy » Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:02 am

I use the Halfords concentrate one and mix it up according to projected temperature.
They have deals on it occasionally (mainly in the summer) so I pop in when passing and get a stock in.
Never had a problem with it freezing in the container, the big bugbear is the jets freezing up but I've got some heated ones off a Mondeo that I must get round to fitting.
The premixed stuff is a rip off I reckon.
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Post by Velocette » Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:16 am

I used to use the little powder sachets and some meths in the water but I have to say that the alcohol evaporates out quickly once on the screen and it can still freeze a bit on the screen but never in the jets or the bottle. I guess it would dewax the paintwork but I only ever did it with old bangers and never noticed any deterioration. I have also always deiced in the morning with a kettle of hot water but wouldn't risk it on the Bongo as screens aren't likely to be in stock locally if it went wrong.
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Re: low temp protection screen wash

Post by scanner » Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:48 am

Asda had 5 litres of the concentrate (not the ready mixed) on sale for £1.99 (I think) in the summer so I bought 3 lots - I think the usual price is £4.99 so could be worth checking at Asda.
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Re: low temp protection screen wash

Post by jaylee » Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:26 pm

downward dog wrote:I use the Lidl liquid stuff every year, as per the link above...... now on the Bongo as well as our other car, I vary the dilution in the summer, and then strengthen it as the dark days approach. What's all this about paintwork damage?
I owned an L reg Vauxhall Combo van from new for about 13 years prior to the Bongo, i saw rust appear above the windscreen on the black aerodynamic bit over the cab...? Coincidentally, the rust mark following the track end of the jet on my screen washer... :idea:

..I've seen it where screen wash rests before drying on some tailgate wash wipes too. :arrow:
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Re: low temp protection screen wash

Post by dave_aber » Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:21 pm

briwy wrote:I've got some heated ones off a Mondeo that I must get round to fitting.
I fitted some mondeo ones about 18 months ago, only got round to wiring them up the other day - connected to the feed to the rear window demister.

I've fitted them under the bonnet edge so they are out of the airflow too.

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Re: low temp protection screen wash

Post by bigdaddycain » Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:51 pm

That's a good idea Dave :idea:

I've only ever seen jets frozen, not the actual contents of the washer reservoir. (providing there's screenwash in of course)

My car has the heated jets/windscreen/rear screen/mirrors etc... It's pleasing to see the huge defrosted orbs on the frozen bonnet surrounding the washer jets moments after the screen heaters have been activated :D

So your Mondeo jets haven't replaced the actual bongo jets then?
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Re: low temp protection screen wash

Post by Diplomat » Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:14 pm

I've always used an appropriate* amount of meths in the screenwash. It has never frozen or damaged the paint. It mixes well with water.

*Enough to stop it freezing!

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Re: low temp protection screen wash

Post by dave_aber » Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:20 pm

Initially, I was going to do that, but I was struggling to get the original ones out!

Then I thought about having to file out the bonnet holes to suit the new ones, and somehow stop the bonnet rusting - and I got all scared.

So, I have mounted a couple of wee steel brackets onto the trim piece below the wipers and mount them there - with the added bonus of them being out of the airflow which must be a factor in them freezing. No photos of this mod yet - and I'm offshore at the mo so I can't nip out!

I've wired them to the black/yellow cable going out of the middle relay on the driver's side inner wing, which is feeding the heated rear window. I'm planning on running a couple of heated mirrors from this as well (eventually!)

So I have 4 pairs of jets on the screen, and in the winter the bonnet ones freeze, leaving the extras to do the work.

I've got a couple of valves which Ady sent me which I am planning on using with the feed to the heated jets to act as 'zone select' valves. Work in progress at the moment though.
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Re: low temp protection screen wash

Post by Northern Bongolow » Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:33 pm

what year mondeo are they off dave, 8) :D
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