intercooler. need to go big.

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Re: intercooler. need to go big.

Post by mikeonb4c » Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:07 pm

def_fid wrote:The Tank was about £300, the Gas unit about £400, but that was a few years ago. Secondhand LPG tanks are easy to get, but a bit big, so I used a 30 litre vertical portable ( but approved for vehicle installation)tank, with a remote filler. I've just bought a 97 Bongo TDi 4WD, with 63000 miles. looking forward to playing with it.
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Post by bigdaddycain » Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:19 pm

:shock: I must admit i'm intrigued by this! How is the LPG ignited? I thought it needed a spark? :shock: I'm very, very interested! =P~
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Post by dandywarhol » Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:49 pm

def_fid wrote:The Tank was about £300, the Gas unit about £400, but that was a few years ago. Secondhand LPG tanks are easy to get, but a bit big, so I used a 30 litre vertical portable ( but approved for vehicle installation)tank, with a remote filler. I've just bought a 97 Bongo TDi 4WD, with 63000 miles. looking forward to playing with it.
Interesting stuff def - just a small point - the Bongo isn't a TDi, as a VW/Pug/Landrover - it's a good old fashioned low pump pressure turbo diesel.
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Re: intercooler. need to go big.

Post by def_fid » Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:22 pm

Thanks, force of habit to call it tdi. The LPG is ignited by the diesel ignition, the two fuels are combined, not as in a petrol substitute system. The LPG catalyses unburnt fuel, as much as 20% in some engines. 28 litres of LPG lasts me almost 1000miles.
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Post by Driver+Passengers » Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:15 am

missfixit70 wrote:Be interesting to see how much difference there is in intake temps before & after cleaning the standard intercooler & pipework, & maybe even with the egr blanked or left as is (working or not?), before looking at bigger intercoolers.
I'm just about in a position to do something along these lines, as I've got a marginally oiled intercooler that I was planning to leave without flushing and am going to blank EGR and clean inlet manifold in the next week or so. I've got a handful of temperature sensors, too. I might put the sensors in place and get data from the 'dirty' intercooler and put those figures up here when I go and run in the new oil/ATF.

Ideally, I'll get two temperature sensors in under the rubber hose connecting the intercooler to the steel pipes, ensuring I've still got a good air seal. Not sure where I'll get the sensor positioned to measure temperature after the EGR comes in, though.
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Post by Driver+Passengers » Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:48 pm

For reference, another thread viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4358 titled Intercooler Upgrade from 2006.
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Post by dave_aber » Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:09 am

Any idea what's happened to that post? Apparently, I'm not allowed to view it now. IIRC it had info about someone who had fitted a larger intercooler, dimensions, etc (i.e. all the hard work!)

Just something I'm considering as a springtime project.....
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Post by g8dhe » Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:50 am

Its been archived to the Vault, hopefully Lorna is around and can heave it back out into the main stream.
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Post by dave_aber » Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:59 am

Ahh, that makes sense. No real hurry, just a back-of-the-head idea for now.....
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Post by westonwarrior » Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:45 pm

The thread does not exist any more.
So it was probably pruned at some point before we stopped pruning the tech section
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Post by dave_aber » Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:47 pm

Oh well, I guess I'll need to get the tape measure out then!
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Post by g8dhe » Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:11 pm

Your in luck Dave - it was still in my cache from when I looked this morning its here now http://www.g8dhe.net/bongo_images/Intec ... pgrade.htm
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Post by Doone » Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:09 pm

Dave, THIS IS A LINK to the source of the turbo info that Colin previously posted.
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Post by dave_aber » Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:26 pm

That's exactly what I was after - thanks to you both.
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Re: intercooler. need to go big.

Post by skater » Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:47 pm

So, having read all that, is bigger better for the Bongo?

Or should we just clean out all the dead flies etc to restore through flow?

Anyone used that exhaust wrap stuff?

Would it help the turbo spin up more easily?

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