Help with strange engine noise *video*

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Help with strange engine noise *video*

Post by Deebee » Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:40 pm

I've just replaced the engine in my bongo, runs drives fine, but has a weird noise when revved.

Thought it may be the air con pump or the tensioners, disconnected those. Noise still there.

Pretty sure it's not the alternator.

Noise seems to be coming from injector pump side and *possibly* a faint rubery burning smell, although this is probably from having oily hands on the engine whilst it was being fitted.
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Re: Help with strange engine noise *video*

Post by Deebee » Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:42 pm

Here's a link to a quick video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rqsuq4Zl ... ata_player


Any ideas?
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Re: Help with strange engine noise *video*

Post by francophile1947 » Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:42 pm

Check the number one (left) exhaust manifold stud - it may be that starting to go. It's a common problem and not expensive to get fixed.
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Re: Help with strange engine noise *video*

Post by Deebee » Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:14 pm

I'll check it, but I'm pretty sure it's not the studs as I've just fitted the manifold.

Thanks for the reply.
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Re: Help with strange engine noise *video*

Post by bongonaut-evv » Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:22 pm

francophile1947 wrote:Check the number one (left) exhaust manifold stud - it may be that starting to go. It's a common problem and not expensive to get fixed.
This happened to my Bongo at first I thought it was a belt squeak but turned out to be a small leak from the left of the exhaust manifold behind the alternator.
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Re: Help with strange engine noise *video*

Post by Northern Bongolow » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:36 am

with the smell of burning rubber i would go for timing belt,did you check it/change it before fitting the motor,you havnt overtightened the other belts have you.or they could be just skidding spilt oil off,try taking the belts off,or squirt with wd or similar.
take off the turbo air pipes and see if the noise gets louder,it could be turbo.
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Re: Help with strange engine noise *video*

Post by helen&tony » Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:02 am

Hi
Yes...definitely the neighbour's moggy stuck in there somewhere
Rubbery smell/ squeak...tight belts
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Re: Help with strange engine noise *video*

Post by Deebee » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:45 am

It's definitely not tight alt/pwr ster/ ac belts.

I'll check the timing belt today, but it was all replaced and had a new tensioners fitted and I'm very sure (although will check) that it's not over tight.

I'm wondering if it could be the injector pump bearings?
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Re: Help with strange engine noise *video*

Post by phoenixroxy » Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:04 pm

sounds like the turbo mate, check all the hoses to it. even take the front hose off and have a look inside see if there is any play in the rotor
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Re: Help with strange engine noise *video*

Post by teenmal » Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:11 pm

Hi,
I would go with the turbo.

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Re: Help with strange engine noise *video*

Post by Northern Bongolow » Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:16 pm

do the old waterboard check, get a metal rod with a lump of wood on the end,like a big joiners screwdriver,place it on the suspected part,and put your ear to the wood,it will amplify the noise fault if present.
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Re: Help with strange engine noise *video*

Post by 321Away » Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:32 pm

firstly give the belts a spray with wd40 with the engine running, that'll eliminate them, any reason you filmed from drivers side? would check the egr pipes for any small fractures or breaks. did you replace the cam belt? check the gaskets on the inlet elbow, doessnt sound like boosts escaping but could have a whistle effect. Did you replace the cam belt tensioner? have only ever seen 1 with bearing problem but its a possibility.
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Re: Help with strange engine noise *video*

Post by Deebee » Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:55 pm

thanks for all the replies :)

it appears that its a boost leak from the inlet manifold, when the boost pipe is disconnected from the turbo, the noise goes away. And if i spray wd on the manifold it appears to bubble when the engine is revved (with the boost pipe connected)

ill take it off and replace the gasket and see if that cures it.
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Re: Help with strange engine noise *video*

Post by danboy99 » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:10 pm

Debee - tried PMing you but not done that before so not sure if it has worked.

After a monster journey all the way from Scrabster to Somerset in one go (560ish miles in about 12 hours) my beloved is now making EXACTLY the same noise as yours. It only does it when cold and stops after about 20 seconds of pulling away. If I then switch off for a few minutes and start again it'll do it again but only for a few seconds again. Also, and may be unrelated it seems to be down on power particularly going up hills, but not always (I solved the latter about 3,000 miles ago with a fuel filter change which I might do again...I do run a little veg but not for a while). Anyway the noise really is the same as yours - did yours only do it when you first started and did you confirm what it was in the end?

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Re: Help with strange engine noise *video*

Post by dandywarhol » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:06 pm

danboy99 wrote:Debee - tried PMing you but not done that before so not sure if it has worked.

After a monster journey all the way from Scrabster to Somerset in one go (560ish miles in about 12 hours) my beloved is now making EXACTLY the same noise as yours. It only does it when cold and stops after about 20 seconds of pulling away. If I then switch off for a few minutes and start again it'll do it again but only for a few seconds again. Also, and may be unrelated it seems to be down on power particularly going up hills, but not always (I solved the latter about 3,000 miles ago with a fuel filter change which I might do again...I do run a little veg but not for a while). Anyway the noise really is the same as yours - did yours only do it when you first started and did you confirm what it was in the end?

Thanks,

Dan
Your noise sounds like a slipping/worn alternator belt Dan - starting the engine takes a huge drain from the battery which the alternator replenishes in around the time you mention - a slipping belt will squeal until the load lessens. I once saw a bongo with the wrong type of belt fitted, the taper on the belt didn't match the taper on the pulley and the belt didn't last long.
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