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Re: silicone hose leaks, turbo clamp, & thermostat problems

Post by daveblueozzie » Thu May 13, 2010 8:22 am

no prices , might be worth ringing to find out how much, if someone knows the sizes needed and how many, maybe they could do a set of clamps (bulk order)
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Re: silicone hose leaks, turbo clamp, & thermostat problems

Post by helen&tony » Thu May 13, 2010 10:51 am

Hi Dave
Are you offering to get a bulk price?...if so, let me know how much, as I'll be ordering some stainless wide-band clips soon, as I'm doing some more fettling! and if they come at a good price, I may be interested
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Re: silicone hose leaks, turbo clamp, & thermostat problems

Post by brorabongo » Thu May 13, 2010 8:41 pm

Jobs done. Rad, hoses, and new stat. Double clipped the hoses, and due to getting rid of air con, I managed to replace stat from above. Tested both stats in a pan first and the new one opened quicker and further than the original stat, which was a genuine part.

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New rad another cheapie, :oops: but this time without the pipe under the filler cap. \:D/
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Old rad (2 year old) has been splitting since a while.
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Re: silicone hose leaks, turbo clamp, & thermostat problems

Post by munroman » Thu May 13, 2010 8:48 pm

Looks good Donald, but what about the red tape to complete the colour scheme? :D

The old rad was in some state for 2 years old!
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Re: silicone hose leaks, turbo clamp, & thermostat problems

Post by MountainGoat » Thu May 13, 2010 9:37 pm

Not surprising when many Highland roads are subject to rockfalls both large and small. About 10 years ago I lost the radiator of my Saab 900 to a rock kicked up by another car or lorry, found it sticking in the radiator after my temp gauge suddenly shot up. :(

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Re: silicone hose leaks, turbo clamp, & thermostat problems

Post by brorabongo » Fri May 14, 2010 5:30 pm

I've got wire mesh behind the bumper and for the grill, this hopefully stops any stones. Does'nt stop stone chips on the bumper, scuttle, and bonnet though. :evil:

Wife's done a sixty mile round trip today and said the temperature did not rise above 88 degs. Use to run around 91-93 degs, and 103 degs when hammered. :twisted:

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Re: silicone hose leaks, turbo clamp, & thermostat problems

Post by handyman » Tue May 18, 2010 2:00 pm

Have replaced hoses using existing mazda clips but always use gas seal on spiggots.

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Re: silicone hose leaks, turbo clamp, & thermostat problems

Post by helen&tony » Tue May 18, 2010 2:09 pm

Hi
That's interesting, as I was planning to use a silicon sealant on my hoses, as I have to replace the front heater matrix shortly...and I don't fancy phaffing around removing heater components regularly to play with the clips!.
What does this gas sealant seal like...does it remain flexible, and is it heat-resistant?
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Re: silicone hose leaks, turbo clamp, & thermostat problems

Post by missfixit70 » Tue May 18, 2010 2:18 pm

handyman wrote:Have replaced hoses using existing mazda clips but always use gas seal on spiggots.

Bongo plumming not much different to home plumbing, only it's mobile :lol:
Did you use the mazda clips on silicon hoses? Or the standard Mazda rubber?
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Re: silicone hose leaks, turbo clamp, & thermostat problems

Post by handyman » Wed May 19, 2010 2:47 pm

Kirsty: Rubber.

Helen, it's called Gas Tight. It remains flexible does'nt go hard :oops:
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Re: silicone hose leaks, turbo clamp, & thermostat problems

Post by missfixit70 » Fri May 28, 2010 4:40 pm

After more issues with weeping joints I managed to source some stainless T-bolt clamps locally, they aren't constant pressure, but they are wider (20mm as opposed to about 12mm with the jubilee clips) & more robust with a slightly rolled edge, works out to about £4.80 per clamp for the larger size 43-47mm, I've got 6 for now as the connection on to the rad hasn't had an issue (to do with the plastic pipe stubs?) & I got one smaller one 23-25mm (£2.65) to try for size, but I've had less issues with these as yet & don't want to chuck too much money at them if they don't do the job

Narrower jubilee clip in the middle

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Busy weekend ahead, new rad & waterpump to fit as well as the hose clips, I'll be taking the hoses off & cleaning the joints up, may even add a smear of silicone sealant unless anyone has reason why I shouldn't?
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Re: silicone hose leaks, turbo clamp, & thermostat problems

Post by munroman » Fri May 28, 2010 6:10 pm

Hi Kirsty, the clamps look good, see how 'non round' the Jubilee type looks in comparison.

I don't see what harm the use of silicone sealant will do, it gives off a small amount of Acetic acid as it cures, but given the volume of the cooling system this wont be a problem.

Enjoy your fettling, just be careful of how much clamping pressure those bad boy clamps can apply!
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Re: silicone hose leaks, turbo clamp, & thermostat problems

Post by missfixit70 » Fri May 28, 2010 9:37 pm

The theory is, they'll need less clamping pressure anyway due to the increased surface area, hopefully this'll then allow the silicon hose to absorb the thermal expansion/contraction better as hopefully the silicon won't migrate sideways so much, add in a bit of belt & braces sealant to help bond the hose to the connections, job's a good un [-o<
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Re: silicone hose leaks, turbo clamp, & thermostat problems

Post by stevejt » Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:26 pm

Another link for constant tension hose clips

http://www.owendevelopments.co.uk/produ ... 6&subId=-1
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Re: silicone hose leaks, turbo clamp, & thermostat problems

Post by missfixit70 » Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:59 pm

missfixit70 wrote:The theory is, they'll need less clamping pressure anyway due to the increased surface area, hopefully this'll then allow the silicon hose to absorb the thermal expansion/contraction better as hopefully the silicon won't migrate sideways so much, add in a bit of belt & braces sealant to help bond the hose to the connections, job's a good un [-o<
Just in case anyone's following this one, the T bolt clamps didn't work TBH, this thread - http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... it=mikalor - explains & a possible source for cheaper constant pressure clamps if Haydn goes for it :D
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