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bleed valve instead of bung

Post by wonkanoby » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:49 pm

bleed valve instead of bung

just a thought but would it not be possible to have a simple valve made to replace the plastic bung,that would make it easier to bleed these bongos
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Re: bleed valve instead of bung

Post by mikeonb4c » Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:14 pm

wonkanoby wrote:bleed valve instead of bung

just a thought but would it not be possible to have a simple valve made to replace the plastic bung,that would make it easier to bleed these bongos
That's an excellent idea. Maybe a simple tap on the end. Trying to get that bung in while boiling coolant is issuing from the pipe is not health & safety friendly :shock:

Anyone got an idea of what might do the job?
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Re: bleed valve instead of bung

Post by missfixit70 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:15 pm

Not a bad idea, you'd have to make sure it completely sealed if you're going to leave it on there, but I think I'd be happier using it to bleed, then when it's cooled down & you're happy it's all ok, take it off & stick the bung back in, easy enough to do that & make sure no air gets back in. It'd certainly save some hot hands :wink:
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Re: bleed valve instead of bung

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Re: bleed valve instead of bung

Post by missfixit70 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:40 pm

I'd still want to be able to stick a funnel on the end, either via another bit of tubing or fixed direct to the valve & I'd want a decent flow through it to allow the burps to escape :wink:
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Re: bleed valve instead of bung

Post by mikexgough » Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:17 am

missfixit70 wrote:I'd still want to be able to stick a funnel on the end, either via another bit of tubing or fixed direct to the valve & I'd want a decent flow through it to allow the burps to escape :wink:

Something like this perhaps......... http://www.cbsonline.co.uk/heater-valve ... -478-p.asp
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Re: bleed valve instead of bung

Post by mikeonb4c » Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:37 pm

mikexgough wrote:
missfixit70 wrote:I'd still want to be able to stick a funnel on the end, either via another bit of tubing or fixed direct to the valve & I'd want a decent flow through it to allow the burps to escape :wink:

Something like this perhaps......... http://www.cbsonline.co.uk/heater-valve ... -478-p.asp
Ohh - that looks good. Do you know if 12mm will be the right size for wedging securely in the bleed house? Might have a flutter if so 8)
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Re: bleed valve instead of bung

Post by waycar8 » Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:24 pm

Someone posted a while ago about fitting a self bleed nipple (or sumat like that) from a central heating system cant remember who it was, try doing a search
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Re: bleed valve instead of bung

Post by Scott » Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:30 pm

I'm sure with a little modification :)

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Re: bleed valve instead of bung

Post by The Great Pretender » Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:32 pm

The automatic air vent is a good idea, an adaptor tee made up to fit it in the head where the temperature sender sits would be the ideal position for it leaving the vent pipe free for filling/bleeding. The auto vent would then bleed off any air/gas that traps in the head during use. :wink:
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Re: bleed valve instead of bung

Post by missfixit70 » Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:11 am

Hadn't thought of putting it in as a separate fitting on the head :idea: , surprised you haven't already got one fitted TGP :wink:
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Re: bleed valve instead of bung

Post by patnben » Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:39 am

Be careful with automatic air vents, they also pass hot steam.
I've been scalded on more than one occasion !!.
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Re: bleed valve instead of bung

Post by mikexgough » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:36 pm

I was chatting this morning to a pal about putting a valve or tap in the bleed pipe and he suggested looking on this classic car website, I have looked and come up with this............ http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproducts ... =Fuel+Taps......

Now my theory is......... get a tap and 2 adaptors and fit in the bleed pipe around 4 to 6 inches or 100 to 150 mm , from the end, the theory being that you bleed as usual until all the bubbles and burps have exited the system and instead of having to quickly whack the bung in the end of the bleed hose.........turn the tap to off.......AND......the coolant at that point would be free of air so none could re-enter the system.....
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Re: bleed valve instead of bung

Post by mikeonb4c » Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:11 pm

patnben wrote:Be careful with automatic air vents, they also pass hot steam.
I've been scalded on more than one occasion !!.
Yes, and its not clear to me that when the operating presure of the system builds up, they won't just allow coolant to vent out of the system. I think a tap is a safer bet myself unless someone can reassure me otherwise :roll:
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Re: bleed valve instead of bung

Post by missfixit70 » Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:20 pm

mikeonb4c wrote:
patnben wrote:Be careful with automatic air vents, they also pass hot steam.
I've been scalded on more than one occasion !!.
Yes, and its not clear to me that when the operating presure of the system builds up, they won't just allow coolant to vent out of the system. I think a tap is a safer bet myself unless someone can reassure me otherwise :roll:
By their design they don't let water out, hence them being an automatic bleed valve :wink: But I just don't know that I'd trust them, I must admit I was thinking much more along the lines of what t'other Mike was talking about
mikexgough wrote:I was chatting this morning to a pal about putting a valve or tap in the bleed pipe and he suggested looking on this classic car website, I have looked and come up with this............ http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproducts ... =Fuel+Taps......

Now my theory is......... get a tap and 2 adaptors and fit in the bleed pipe around 4 to 6 inches or 100 to 150 mm , from the end, the theory being that you bleed as usual until all the bubbles and burps have exited the system and instead of having to quickly whack the bung in the end of the bleed hose.........turn the tap to off.......AND......the coolant at that point would be free of air so none could re-enter the system.....
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