Installing an alarm

[Ramsey]

Hi All,

Me again, I am replacing my central locking controller as the old one was rubbish and thought I would stick an alarm on at the same time (stupid idea!) I have bought the most complex alarm in the world that can start your engine whilst making love to your wife....(theres two minutes saved).
I need to find the easiest way of taping into the indicator wiring (under the steering column preferably or int he cab) and I need to find the easiest way into the bay under hte bonnet from the cab. Does anyone have any wiring diagrams etc for where I can tap into things please, like mains, indicators, interior light, toaster etc;

Thanks as ever,

Rams.

[g8dhe]

Toaster yes there is only one version of the camping cube;


For anything else you'll have to be more specific as there 292 pages in all covering 3 models and 5 years of variations

[g8dhe]

Actually they don't look very different so try these for the indicators;

[jaylee]

Hi Ramsey,
Behind the wiper stalk (strangely enough) is a bundle of wires two for the indicators..
Now from memory (& don't quote me) they are (i think) a turquoise/bluey green thin wire with a black stripe & a thin black one with a brown stripe..? I hope this help point you in the right direction.

There are two big rubber grommets going through the bulkhead either side under the windscreen one behind the header tank the other the drivers side behind & up from the fat loom that runs past the battery! (If you need to run anything into the bay under the bonnet.)

Without pulling my van apart again, the negative trigger wire for the front interior lights is part of the loom running down the drivers windscreen pillar... red with a green stripe..? i think??
Assuming a negative trigger is what you are after....

Use a tester & good luck!

[cheffy34]

Two minutes saving my wife would consider you a stud

I found the indicater wires down in the kick panel next to your go faster pedal, in my v6er i'm sure they were green with black trace and green with white trace, there is also a common 3rd indicator wire which i assume is for the hazards don't take that one( i was told that by a master alarm fitter) , test them individually



Dar

[Ramsey]

Cheers Guys, awesome response as ever!
I have got quite far as I now have the central locking working and part of the alarm. I must be mad but I think Im going to go the whole hog and wire the remote starting function.

The bits I dont understand on the alarm are,
- whats is the door negative triggering, I have to connect a wire there which I think is the door switch?
- where is the ACC on the ignition located and is that the first notch or second?

I need to scan the wiring page for you guys to comment on as theres a few weird things for me.

Sorry to be a pain and thanks for the drawings and advice so far as I have the incdicators flashing and stuff which is great.

Cheers

Rams.

[jaylee]

When you open the door a switch on the bottom corner of the door jam depresses or pops out, earth's the interior lighting circuit & the courtesy light comes on when the light is set for that mode...
If you unscrew the handle on the drivers door pillar thing above the dash, unclip at the top of the trim, then slide it up, one of the negative trigger wires for the front interior lights is part of the loom running down the drivers windscreen pillar... red with a green stripe (stressing again from memory.) i think??

Cheffy might be able to help out. The ACC wire is or might be blue & white (trying to remember.)
That's the wire to tap into when the dash warning lights up & the glow plug warning comes on prior to starting the engine..

I could be wrong!!
I've had many a head scratching moment meself..

Always double check with a tester then write it down.. I wish i kept the scraps of paper with my notes on now!

Yer not fitting a Hawk system per chance are you?

[cheffy34]

I took the triggers straight from the pin switches, laid the wires with the orig wiring, when you connect two pins you will need diodes to stop it backfeeding me thinks ACC is for accessories first turn i think but usual disclaimers apply if you look on the barrel where you stick your key in it is written usually

Mine is a hawk alarm

Dar

[jaylee]

I took the triggers straight from the pin switches, laid the wires with the orig wiring, when you connect two pins you will need diodes to stop it backfeeding me thinks ACC is for accessories first turn i think but usual disclaimers apply if you look on the barrel where you stick your key in it is written usually

Mine is a hawk alarm

Dar

Cheers Dar, your link on diodes on my tailgate panel thread was informative & helpful..
I too have a Hawk system & have used the original neg trigger on the front & back courtesy light switches to protect the doors all round.. (as well as a microwave sensor for any smash n grabs.)
Though the front works fine independently of the rear i have found the the tailgate courtesy light triggers with the slide door light & visa versa.. I also suspect the rear passenger lights will come on when the bonnet is opened too! (It does!)

On the whole i'm pretty pleased with the versatility of the Hawk system as opposed to the Sparkrite system previously fitted that worked on a voltage drop sensor that triggered when the doors opened, the unreliable Sparkrite unit eventually died a miserable death despite countless efforts to resuscitate!

I have ordered a batch of diodes which strategically placed in the circuit (hopefully) should remedy the "Clown Car syndrome" i have inadvertently created..

Ya live & learn...

[Ramsey]

Im afraid my alarm is an ebay special as my cetral locking died as I put the old unit in the door which I think suffered from moisture.
Here's the wiring diagram Im trying to sort out:


As said I have got the central locking working and part of the alarm installed. Its the negative wires blue and red Im struggling with and also the green which I think is also a door wire as they sent me an extra door switch incase the car didnt have one.

Heres the alarm I bought:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0387388890

I would like to get the engine start bit working too but the bit I have has 5 wires but can only see 4 on their diagram. The bit with the relay and kill piece is confusing me too.

Any help as ever is awsomely received

Thanks


Rams

[jaylee]

The red one is for a trunk release, don't use... it serves a different function as a boot popper only. You would need a relay to convert negative trigger to positive & a boot release actuator in addition to set that up..

The Blue is the one you want for the door trigger for the alarm!

As for the remote start; i had a similar problem 5 wires, 4 on the fitting instructions.
I personally felt no need for remote start for my vehicle & didn't fit this function...

However i am interested to see how you get on with it..!

[cheffy34]

I took the triggers straight from the pin switches, laid the wires with the orig wiring, when you connect two pins you will need diodes to stop it backfeeding me thinks ACC is for accessories first turn i think but usual disclaimers apply if you look on the barrel where you stick your key in it is written usually

Mine is a hawk alarm

Dar

Cheers Dar, your link on diodes on my tailgate panel thread was informative & helpful..
I too have a Hawk system & have used the original neg trigger on the front & back courtesy light switches to protect the doors all round.. (as well as a microwave sensor for any smash n grabs.)
Though the front works fine independently of the rear i have found the the tailgate courtesy light triggers with the slide door light & visa versa.. I also suspect the rear passenger lights will come on when the bonnet is opened too! (It does!)

On the whole i'm pretty pleased with the versatility of the Hawk system as opposed to the Sparkrite system previously fitted that worked on a voltage drop sensor that triggered when the doors opened, the unreliable Sparkrite unit eventually died a miserable death despite countless efforts to resuscitate!

I have ordered a batch of diodes which strategically placed in the circuit (hopefully) should remedy the "Clown Car syndrome" i have inadvertently created..

Ya live & learn...

Yip they will do that i ran all my diodes and triggers down the passenger footwell apart from the driver door trigger as was running out of space down the driver side i did find out that the alarm doesn't like other triggers being joined to the driver door Jaylee dnt know why something techi i assume i suspect that diodes will sort your electricery surrounding your fag socket as that runs off the same fuse as the stereo doesn't it and it was my stereo that was affected


Dar

[jaylee]

Dar, how did you fit yer diodes? where they soldered in-line & shrink wrapped?
That's my plan...!

I worked out i only need 3.. one fer the bonnet sensor, one fer the tailgate sensor. (I have two independent sensor wires to the alarm, the second services the bonnet & rear doors.) The third for the radio... But that's the mirror folder module that causes the radio anomaly!

[cheffy34]

Im afraid my alarm is an ebay special as my cetral locking died as I put the old unit in the door which I think suffered from moisture.
Here's the wiring diagram Im trying to sort out:


As said I have got the central locking working and part of the alarm installed. Its the negative wires blue and red Im struggling with and also the green which I think is also a door wire as they sent me an extra door switch incase the car didnt have one.

Heres the alarm I bought:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0387388890

I would like to get the engine start bit working too but the bit I have has 5 wires but can only see 4 on their diagram. The bit with the relay and kill piece is confusing me too.

Any help as ever is awsomely received

Thanks


Rams

I found out there is nowhere dry in the door skin, cost me 2 closures in the end as for getting the engine start, cant help i'm affraid i don't have that option didn't want it i opted for the cat one with closure, all i need is someone who fits alarms to sign the paperwork nudge nudge if anyone is an aproved fitter that wants to earn a score


Dar

[cheffy34]

Dar, how did you fit yer diodes? where they soldered in-line & shrink wrapped?
That's my plan...!

Yeh shrink wrap them and solder in line top tip put a label on the diode so you know which direction it is running so if you get it the wrong way round it is easy to rectify without having to take the shrink wrap off and re-do

dar