Any thoughts on easy place to fit an oil temp. sensor?

[apole]

Hi there,

From the look of this drawing in lushprojects it's on the passenger side of the engine, half way up the block, will look like a spark plug, with a wire coming out of it:

http://www.lushprojects.com/bongopartsm ... no=.html#4

Part number 18-501

Same part number on the diesel btw as on the v6 petrol.

Still not sure as to whether a sandwich plate or just the bits that come with the gauge (as above) work best. I guess an easy way to find out would be to use the free bits with the gauge first, if they don't work well then they can easily be removed.

[mikeonb4c]

Hi there,

From the look of this drawing in lushprojects it's on the passenger side of the engine, half way up the block, will look like a spark plug, with a wire coming out of it:

http://www.lushprojects.com/bongopartsm ... no=.html#4

Part number 18-501

Same part number on the diesel btw as on the v6 petrol.

Still not sure as to whether a sandwich plate or just the bits that come with the gauge (as above) work best. I guess an easy way to find out would be to use the free bits with the gauge first, if they don't work well then they can easily be removed.

Thanks Andy. I'm know nothing about these things but will the standard sensor provide an electrical signal capable of driving a generic oil temp gauge do you think? I would have on cost and hassle of fitting something special if so. Also, what function does it have on a standard Bongo set-up and must that be left untouched?

[apole]

Hi Mike,

I'm going to give that company a call and find out.

Like you I'd still want the standard oil light to come on as normal and to have a neat installation that can be put back to standard if needed.


I'll try and give them a call this arvo to find out.

Andy

[mikeonb4c]

Hi Mike,

I'm going to give that company a call and find out.

Like you I'd still want the standard oil light to come on as normal and to have a neat installation that can be put back to standard if needed.


I'll try and give them a call this arvo to find out.

Andy

You're a star. It would be interesting if a cheap way of measuring oil temp could be arrived at. Might be a project for a wet afternoon or two

[apole]

Hi Mike,

Well called 2 places, one being the place that sells those blue gauges. Both said the easiest, most reliable way would be to use a sandwich plate. Easy to fit, if done as per instructions and not overtightened won't leak etc, and gives ability to measure pressure as well if you want to. Also you don't touch the original oil pressure sensor and setup so that remains as is.

On the V6 it's an M20 x 1.5 but that is bound to be different on the diesel. Also need to check if you have clearance for one of these as it pushes the filter out a bit and needs clearance for the connections too.

Downside is it costs more money

[mikeonb4c]

Hi Mike,

Well called 2 places, one being the place that sells those blue gauges. Both said the easiest, most reliable way would be to use a sandwich plate. Easy to fit, if done as per instructions and not overtightened won't leak etc, and gives ability to measure pressure as well if you want to. Also you don't touch the original oil pressure sensor and setup so that remains as is.

On the V6 it's an M20 x 1.5 but that is bound to be different on the diesel. Also need to check if you have clearance for one of these as it pushes the filter out a bit and needs clearance for the connections too.

Downside is it costs more money

You are right in all your observations. The gauge suppliers are ducking the question I fear. But still, thats what enquiries are all about. I guess one thing I could do for myself (if I find time) is measure voltages across the oil temp sensor gauge position to see what is going on?

[Aethelric]

Mind you, as they go up to 150C, further the the TM2's 127C limit, you could fix the sensor into the head around the exhaust side and use it to measure the block temperature.

[mikeonb4c]

Mind you, as they go up to 150C, further the the TM2's 127C limit, you could fix the sensor into the head around the exhaust side and use it to measure the block temperature.

You're on the wrong thread

But seriously, its oil temp I (and I suspect Apole) are curious about. It could be a damp squib, but its our damp squib

[Aethelric]

well this one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UNIVERSAL-SMOKED- ... |294%3A200
Comes with a sender.

The oil goes into the cooler at the bottom part of the radiator. It may be possible to fix something on the input to the radiator, or on that pipe.

Dave

[mikeonb4c]

well this one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UNIVERSAL-SMOKED- ... |294%3A200
Comes with a sender.

The oil goes into the cooler at the bottom part of the radiator. It may be possible to fix something on the input to the radiator, or on that pipe.

Dave

Ooh - looks interesting. I'll take a proper look later (just going to watch a movie with the kids)

[Yamaha]

I have bought the set of 3 gauges - this is the oil temp one - eBay item 380115226050 - smoked lens looks cool when switched off. The other 2 are the water temp, and voltmeter - together with a 3 gauge dash binnacle to mount them.

These are the instructions for the oil and water temp gauges:-



There is a comprehensive set of adapters in with the gauge - will attempt to photograph them and post the pic.

Not sure whether mounting-wise the top of the dash is an ideal position - maybe kinda hard to read if the sun is shining on them.

I am really wanting to fit a parcel-cum-map shelf thingy above my head, where the sun visors are - if and when I get around to doing this, it may be an ideal position for the gauges, out of direct sunlight. The 3 way binnacle could then be mounted upside down underneath the hypothetical shelf!!

Mike

[Yamaha]

well this one
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UNIVERSAL-SMOKED- ... |294%3A200
Comes with a sender.

The oil goes into the cooler at the bottom part of the radiator. It may be possible to fix something on the input to the radiator, or on that pipe.

Dave

Well, that may be an alternative place for the sender - never looked at this cooler, so I wasn't aware it existed. Is it definitely engine oil it cools - not, maybe, transmission oil?

Also, would you not need to drain it when doing an oil change, then? Don't remember it being mentioned in the oil changing threads.

Mike

[apole]

Pretty sure you'll find it is an oil cooler for the auto transmission.

Mike, what fittings did your oil temp gauge come with out of interest?

Thanks.

andy

[mikeonb4c]

If I get one, I'm thinking of making a faired cowling to go in the drivers footwell in the curve where the centre console flows into the dashboard underside. Doesn't look as though it will cause any leg restriction (including when resting the left foot on the floor footrest), should be visible when driving (plus no glare) , plus is discreet and doesn't cause any 'naff' clutter on the standard console design. Also easy to run wiring too etc. It'll be easy to make a mockup out of card and paper before making the real one. I'll probably affix it to the console using Evostick and mount the gauge in it. You could probably accommodate 2 gauges in that position without probs I reckon

[Yamaha]

Well, excuse the crappy picture - not easy to know if it's focused properly - but it gives an idea of what's in the box:-



The square block has an opening on all 4 sides - not sure how you would use it, though. I took the photo out in our conservatory, with a clear perspex roof - and when fired up the gauge didn't look all that bright - and it's raining today!!

In the lounge, where it's obviously darker, it looks superb - so I feel that they would need to be mounted up out of the direct light. Still, not bad for £15 each!!

Mike