Rear End Shudder when pulling away

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Rear End Shudder when pulling away

Post by wormey » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:01 am

I have had Freda for 3 months now, she is still under warranty from a reputable dealer. Freda is a 4x4 2.5 diesel Auto with no LSD.

Recently under hard aceleration from standing (Straight line ) the back end shudders for a short while and disappears.

I had to take Freda back to the garage last week for unrelated warranty work and I mentioned it then.

I was told that it was normal, the symptoms are now getting slightly worse.

Should a Bongo/Freda shudder under aceleration, I love my Freda and want her just right. 8)

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Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away

Post by dandywarhol » Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:05 am

Not normal. Check tyres are same depths of tread and correct size. Could be the start of a viscous coupling fault.
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Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away

Post by wormey » Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:07 pm

Thanks for the replies,

New tyres all around same size, Last night I jacked up the back diff to have both wheels off the ground.

This morning no shudder at all, I take it I had wind up in the 4x4 system??.

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Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away

Post by haydn callow » Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:53 pm

I get a shuddering from the back but only when towing....can somone explain what this "windup" is ??
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Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away

Post by francophile1947 » Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:23 pm

wormey wrote: This morning no shudder at all, I take it I had wind up in the 4x4 system??.

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Didn't think you got any wind up with same size tyres all round, unless a wheel was skidding :? :?
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Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away

Post by missfixit70 » Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:45 pm

Or as Dandy says it could be the first signs of VC problems?
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Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away

Post by dandywarhol » Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:30 pm

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wormey wrote: This morning no shudder at all, I take it I had wind up in the 4x4 system??.

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Didn't think you got any wind up with same size tyres all round, unless a wheel was skidding :? :?
You'll get windup if the VC's faulty John as there's no guarantee all the tyres are EXACTLY the same circumference
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Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away

Post by dandywarhol » Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:34 pm

haydn callow wrote:I get a shuddering from the back but only when towing....can somone explain what this "windup" is ??
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Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away

Post by francophile1947 » Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:34 pm

dandywarhol wrote:
francophile1947 wrote:
wormey wrote: This morning no shudder at all, I take it I had wind up in the 4x4 system??.

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Didn't think you got any wind up with same size tyres all round, unless a wheel was skidding :? :?
You'll get windup if the VC's faulty John as there's no guarantee all the tyres are EXACTLY the same circumference
Thanks Dandy :D I guess it must be the VC as it says new tyres all round, so they should be the same size (unless they're faulty :lol: )
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Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away

Post by wormey » Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:35 pm

I have contacted the company and it's booked in for next week.

Could I have caused any long term damage to the VC, driven it for about 2000 miles. :shock: Where is the VC and how do I know if they've changed/repaired it. :?


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Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away

Post by dandywarhol » Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:49 pm

Difficult to say - it's the big lump of casing on the back of the gearbox and it can't be overhauled (as far as I know)

Interesting explanation here...........

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Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away

Post by scanner » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:29 pm

wormey wrote:and how do I know if they've changed/repaired it. :?

Put a great big unmissable mark on it with a file or something similar.

As DW says they aren't really repairable, so if it still has the same mark on it afterwards it hasn't been changed.
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Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away

Post by dandywarhol » Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:48 pm

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Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away

Post by stilldesperate » Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:55 pm

Awesome link, Dandy, love the translation of the AFT sleeping arrangements! :D

-- Will have to try it on the Japanese girls at work :oops:

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Re: Rear End Shudder when pulling away

Post by wormey » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:02 am

Will this mean that the whole gearbox may have to be changed, or just the VC lump on the end replaced with a new one.

Although under warranty [-o< , how much and how long do they last.

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