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Exhaust

Post by gazz and ally » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:30 pm

Hello all,

first post in absolutely ages. Hope you've all had fun in the meantime.

Reason for return to the forum is that our exhaust box has just fallen off on the way home tonight. Before I phone the garage tomorrow and having just read through a few threads on the subject, just wanted to check a few things:

Situation:
a) back box not completely off but hanging own
b) MOT due in a week

Questions:
a) do I need to replace the box or can it just be fixed?
b) can the box be done away with and a simple pipe fitted instead (as suggested in other threads)?
c) is it realistic for an unskilled numpty to attempt without having to use a garage?
d) will it pass the MOT if no box?

Thanks in advance...

Gazz
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Re: Exhaust

Post by mikeonb4c » Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:24 pm

Not worth mending I suspect it it has failed due to rust, as its probably almost rusted through elsewhere. I had to replace mine a short while back (Mister Munkey kindly gave me his old one) and was surprised how very quick and simple it was. As long as you have the tools to get a good purchase on the rusty nuts that clamp the back box to the middle section, the rest is just a case of slipping the rubber hanger straps (there's two of them I think) over the location points on the bodywork. The one thing I did have to help me was reasonable access underneath by driving the rear wheels onto ramps. But you might be OK just by getting the exhaust side (nearside) wheels onto a decent bit of pavement kerb, or by jacking up the nearside using the wheel jack (and making sure it is stable on the jack!). Good luck 8)
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Re: Exhaust

Post by scanner » Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:01 am

I replaced mine, but never again - I'm now firmly in the "it's the worst designed, most useless POS in the universe" camp.

It is also many kilos of wasted payload.

If the "U" bend pipe over the axle is OK I'd just find a decent motor factor/accessory shop that sells generic rear boxes and those step up/down sleeves to fit the end of the "U" bend pipe and the inlet to the box.

Buy one of each and find a kindly garage to fit it for you - if you can't do it yourself.

The trickiest bit might be making up a hanger to fit the rubber mounts to. The easiest way is to cut the one off the old box and clamp it to the new box with a big jubilee clip or the like.

I've guaranteed mine won't fall off for ages by having all the bits to replace it ready and waiting............... :roll:

It will pass an MOT with just a straight pipe, at least 2 on here have done so repeatedly
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Re: Exhaust

Post by missfixit70 » Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:05 am

I asked my mot guy about a straight through, he couldn't see a problem with it, especially as there aren't any uk "standard" exhaust noise levels for the bongo to compare it to.
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Re: Exhaust

Post by teenmal » Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:39 pm

gazz and ally wrote:Hello all,

first post in absolutely ages. Hope you've all had fun in the meantime.

Reason for return to the forum is that our exhaust box has just fallen off on the way home tonight. Before I phone the garage tomorrow and having just read through a few threads on the subject, just wanted to check a few things:

Situation:
a) back box not completely off but hanging own
b) MOT due in a week

Questions:
a) do I need to replace the box or can it just be fixed?
b) can the box be done away with and a simple pipe fitted instead (as suggested in other threads)?
c) is it realistic for an unskilled numpty to attempt without having to use a garage?
d) will it pass the MOT if no box?

Thanks in advance...

Gazz
Reasons for MOT Rejection on exhaust system

a. A part of the system missing or excessively deteriorated (ie back box missing)

b. an exhaust system mounting missing, or In such condition that it does not fully support the exhaust system.

Note: An alternative mounting device is acceptable providing the system is secure and the fixing is not likely to fail prematurely-

2.
a. A major leak of exhaust gases from any part of the system

Note: A minor exhaust leak from, for example, a connection joint or a pin hole, is not a Reason for Rejection

b. a silencer in such condition, or of such a type, that the noise emitted from the vehicle is clearly unreasonably above the level expected from a similar vehicle with a silencer in average condition.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Exhaust

Post by francophile1947 » Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:33 pm

teenmal wrote: a. A part of the system missing or excessively deteriorated (ie back box missing)
Does not apply where the missing/deteriorated part has been suitably replaced (i.e. straight pipe).
As long as the exhaust gases are carried clear of the car, you'll have no problem with a straight pipe replacement.
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Re: Exhaust

Post by scanner » Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:36 pm

francophile1947 wrote:
teenmal wrote: a. A part of the system missing or excessively deteriorated (ie back box missing)
Does not apply where the missing/deteriorated part has been suitably replaced (i.e. straight pipe).
As long as the exhaust gases are carried clear of the car, you'll have no problem with a straight pipe replacement.
Exactly - that's "missing" as in "nothing there" not "missing" as in "replaced by something else that adequately does the same job".
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