Do you want a low coolant alarm at £22.17?

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Re: Do you want a low coolant alarm at £22.17?

Post by The Great Pretender » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:15 am

Ok peeps, now have a kit of funny shaped electronic 'bits'. When I work out how to stick them together my progress will be here when I work out how to stop the soldering iron blistering my fingers. #-o
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Re: Do you want a low coolant alarm at £22.17?

Post by bigdaddycain » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:28 am

I, for one, look forward to hearing the results.... (I can lend you a pin if you get blisters) :lol:
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Re: Do you want a low coolant alarm at £22.17?

Post by The Great Pretender » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:45 am

bigdaddycain wrote:I, for one, look forward to hearing the results.... (I can lend you a pin if you get blisters) :lol:
OUCH..................S**T...............B*GG*R is all you are gonna hear so far ............ :wink:
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Re: Do you want a low coolant alarm at £22.17?

Post by missfixit70 » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:46 am

The Great Pretender wrote:Ok peeps, now have a kit of funny shaped electronic 'bits'. When I work out how to stick them together my progress will be here when I work out how to stop the soldering iron blistering my fingers. #-o
Don't hold the hot bit? :wink:
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Re: Do you want a low coolant alarm at £22.17?

Post by The Great Pretender » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:59 am

missfixit70 wrote:
The Great Pretender wrote:Ok peeps, now have a kit of funny shaped electronic 'bits'. When I work out how to stick them together my progress will be here when I work out how to stop the soldering iron blistering my fingers. #-o
Don't hold the hot bit? :wink:
Expert advice needed...................wanna hold it for me?............... :wink:
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Re: Do you want a low coolant alarm at £22.17?

Post by bigdaddycain » Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:32 am

The Great Pretender wrote:
missfixit70 wrote:
The Great Pretender wrote:Ok peeps, now have a kit of funny shaped electronic 'bits'. When I work out how to stick them together my progress will be here when I work out how to stop the soldering iron blistering my fingers. #-o
Don't hold the hot bit? :wink:
Expert advice needed...................wanna hold it for me?............... :wink:
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Re: Do you want a low coolant alarm at £22.17?

Post by mikeonb4c » Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:08 pm

Make sure you polish the tip of your iron and dip it (and the piece you are about to put it to) in flux, or you will get slag build up and it will be hard to join the components together. Wipe off any surplus material and let it cool down fully before you put it back in its holder. Once you've done that, you can get on with the soldering :roll:
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Re: Do you want a low coolant alarm at £22.17?

Post by The Great Pretender » Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:02 am

Ok peeps, as usual life gets in the way of having fun but I have eventually stuck it together. There are 3 probes top one fitted at the high level. Second fitted at low level, the third goes in the base of tank.

The output wires are fitted to a buzzer from Maplins ( 2 quid and LOUD). The alarm goes off when the level drops to the low level sensor, this stops false alarms until the level is low. The alarm stops when coolant reaches the high level probe.
I did need to change two thingies to make it work but only cost 30p.
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Re: Do you want a low coolant alarm at £22.17?

Post by dandywarhol » Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:31 am

Did you measure a current draw TGP? Curious to know how it compares with other setups..............
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Re: Do you want a low coolant alarm at £22.17?

Post by haydn callow » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:51 pm

Sounds good...have you actually fitted it to the Bongo or a test rig at this point ?
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Re: Do you want a low coolant alarm at £22.17?

Post by The Great Pretender » Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:25 am

Sorry guys my puter is deciding what posts send me a response.

It is fitted Haydn.
Tested it for you Dandy, glad I did. It is 2.4 mA. The zit covered kid in Maplins gave me the wrong resistors.
With SS screws I dont think there will be a problem but will test it down to find out how low it will go.
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Re: Do you want a low coolant alarm at £22.17?

Post by haydn callow » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:20 am

TGP....that is a "HUGE" amount af electricky you are putting into your cooling system.
I think I have my sums right but please accept my appoliges if I have got this wrong.
2.4 mA = 24,000 micro amps.
It is no secret that our alarm is at between 25 micro amps and 45 micro amps @ 2 volts.
(our latest module is 24 micro amps)

At best you are putting into your cooling system 533 times the current and up to 960 times the current at worst.

This is not going to be good for the radiator or any other alloy parts of the engine. Should you have any brass/copper/solder then things can only get worse.

I know some peeps will say "he would say that would'nt he" There are the findings of our research for what it's worth.

Strongly advise you either disconnect it asap or get them amps down.

It will also start to break down the properties of the coolant.
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Re: Do you want a low coolant alarm at £22.17?

Post by dandywarhol » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:37 am

Does this help? :wink:

da (deca) = x10
k (kilo) = x1000
M (Mega) = x1000000
G (Giga) = x1000000000
T (Tera) = x1000000000000

d (deci) = /10
c (cent) = /100
m (milli) = /1000
µ (micro) = /1000000
n (nano) = /1000000000
p (pico) = /1000000000000

Maybe TGP meant microamps :?
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Re: Do you want a low coolant alarm at £22.17?

Post by haydn callow » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:42 am

I don't think so......2.4 micro amps ?? We wish.
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Re: Do you want a low coolant alarm at £22.17?

Post by The Great Pretender » Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:00 am

Check your maths Haydn.
2.4mA=2400 micro amps.
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