Technical questions and answers about the Mazda Bongo
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by spad112 » Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:03 pm
Hi fellow Bongonauts
If its not one thing then something else comes along to add to the stress.
Symtom:Groaning noise heard from rear of bongo when slowing down using brakes.When at standstill nothing heard
Did notice on Driver's side rear wheel trim when washing, brown deposits(hard & crusty on wheeltrim)
Checked brake fluid,but level is not dropping(or if it is its very very miniscule)
Any ideas ?

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by dreamwarrioruk » Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:13 pm
is it only there when braking.
i was thinking wheel bearings at first glance. is there anything trapped around the brake hubs that could be rubbing.
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by Matt&JoyBongling » Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:32 pm
Had the bongo been driven much or had it got wet recently before you started washing it? I.E. Is there any chance that the brakes are not working properly & so the disk is not being worn / cleaned or had it been standing after some rain and the rust developed overnight? Have you noticed any pulling when you brake?
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by spad112 » Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:05 pm
Yes it has been raining alot recently,but the residue was there on the plastic wheel trim during dry weather.
Brakes not pulling to one side at all.
Think it probably needs someone more qualified than me to take wheel off and check the brakes on that side.Not
good on the mechanics of bongo's or any other vechicle.
Can anyone tell me what brake parts are reqd for front and rear wheels of the bongo...pads shoes ,discs etc.
My Bongo is a 96 version.KD-SGLS 103712
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by dandywarhol » Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:40 pm
Sounds like you've worn through your pads..........................
Part numbers in the factsheet
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by mikeonb4c » Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:35 pm
dandywarhol wrote:Sounds like you've worn through your pads..........................
Part numbers in the factsheet
Indeed it does (sound possible at least). Did I read on here they are designed to make a nasty noise in the last stages so that you change them before real damage gets done?
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by Rhod » Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:59 pm
Agree with Dandy - sounds like your rear pads need changing. It's a straightforward enough job - only took me about half an hour (plus another half hour to slacken the wheel nuts off!). I got my pads from AVA, but plenty of other sources around. Just remember to transfer the anti squeal shims over from the old pads.
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by mikeonb4c » Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:45 pm
Rhod wrote:Just remember to transfer the anti squeal shims over from the old pads.
...unless the new pads come with some. On mine, the old ones turned out to be missing the anti-rattle shims (some anughty garage in the past!). Once I fitted the new pads, with shims, the brakes stopping making their rattling noise every time braking while reversing was followed b braking while going forward.
Agree about it being an easy DIY job. I'd never done disc pads before but was amazed what an easy and quick job it was. Ask on here if you need guidance doing the job (or have a search as its been explained before I think). All this assumes your problem is disc pads of course!!
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by spad112 » Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:17 pm
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by Rhod » Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:19 pm
spad112 wrote:Borrowing a trolly jack to assist with wheel removal( Where's the correct place to jack the rear of the bongo up ?
With a trolley jack, the service manual recommends placing it under the rear diff.
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by mikeonb4c » Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:06 pm
Make sure the trolley jack is beefy enough for a Bongo. I've got one that isn't

. So did BF member Shad who came over with it and carried on pumping when he shouldn't have. Seals went 'pop', trolley jack binned. It needs to be a 3 ton trolley jack I think for safety. You'll know if it isn't up to it as it gets v hard to pump the lever. If it don't go up easy, don't push it

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by lizard » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:04 am
mikeonb4c wrote:Make sure the trolley jack is beefy enough for a Bongo. I've got one that isn't

. So did BF member Shad who came over with it and carried on pumping when he shouldn't have. Seals went 'pop', trolley jack binned. It needs to be a 3 ton trolley jack I think for safety. You'll know if it isn't up to it as it gets v hard to pump the lever. If it don't go up easy, don't push it

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by tricky » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:57 pm
Rhod wrote:spad112 wrote:Borrowing a trolly jack to assist with wheel removal( Where's the correct place to jack the rear of the bongo up ?
With a trolley jack, the service manual recommends placing it under the rear diff.
Would also recommend using axle stands to take the load whilst working.
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by missfixit70 » Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:54 pm
mikeonb4c wrote:Make sure the trolley jack is beefy enough for a Bongo. I've got one that isn't

. So did BF member Shad who came over with it and carried on pumping when he shouldn't have. Seals went 'pop', trolley jack binned. It needs to be a 3 ton trolley jack I think for safety. You'll know if it isn't up to it as it gets v hard to pump the lever. If it don't go up easy, don't push it

I'd think that it just meant Shad's jack was goosed, the bongo is no more than 2tons, you're only lifting a part of that, even a 2 ton jack is overkill, as you aren't going to lift the entire weight on one point.
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by francophile1947 » Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:57 pm
Agreed Kirsty - I've got a 1.5 tonne and a 2 tonne, both work fine.
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