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overheating

Post by daviddocherty » Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:07 pm

Hi,
Im new to the Bongo and I have a problem with overheating.
Its a 1998 25 d.
When I drive it will go up to the hot and will shoot out the expansion tank. I changed the thermostat but no change.
any help for a new Bongo owner would be great!
Also any Bongo garages in the Dundee area.
thanks :mrgreen:
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Re: overheating

Post by francophile1947 » Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:31 pm

Hi and welcome to the madhouse :D
Any signs of water in the oil or exhaust smell in the coolant? Was anything done to the cooling system prior to the first overheating? It is essential that the system is bled properly (see fact sheet in Member's Area) or overheating will occur. Unfortunately, as you've cooked the engine several times, there's a good chance you've got a cylinder head or head gasket problem.
No idea about garages near Dundee, I'm afraid :(
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Re: overheating

Post by sparkymik » Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:38 pm

If you have just aquired your Bongo can it not go back to the dealer? check members area for garages Bongo friendly in your area, hope you get it sorted, and welcome =D>



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Re: overheating

Post by daviddocherty » Mon Sep 22, 2008 1:41 pm

sparkymik wrote:If you have just aquired your Bongo can it not go back to the dealer? check members area for garages Bongo friendly in your area, hope you get it sorted, and welcome =D>



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Re: overheating

Post by Simon Jones » Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:12 pm

Welcome on board David - sorry to hear its not going too well. I've had a similar experience although I didn't have the overheating part, just the loss of coolant, which would have probably resulted in overheating if left unattended. Unfortunately, overheating has to be the most covered topic on this forum & this is a lot of useful info here, as well as some other posts which are slightly mis-leading.

A good starting point is to use the search faclity & also look at the factsheets in the members section.

Your very first thing to check is the state of the coolant. If its brown or just plain water, you should drain & back-flush & refill with a 50/50 mix. If it's brand new, that could indicate the previous owner has already tried (& failed) with this method. The most important thing with anything to do with the cooling system is to following the bleed process methodically. It can take over an hour to do it properly, so following the instructions in the factsheets & on the forum.

Pressure in the system does tend to point to one (or more) of the following:

1) Head gasket failure - where it is no longer performing its job of keeping the water, oil & combustion gases seperate
2) Warped / cracked head - typically caused by an overheating incident
3) Cracked block - this is the cast iron lump that contains the cylinder bores. There is a water jacket aound the cylinders & there is only a few mm of metal to keep it all seperate. I have only come across one Bongo owner who has experienced this, so it is extremely rare.
4) Another owner had a seal fail in the turbo so that coolant was being forced into the engine, but again, this is a very rare occurance.

The symptoms you describe of water coming out the expansion are typical either of an airlock (so the water is not circulating properly & is literally boiling like a kettle), or combined with the white smoke on start up, it will probably be gasket or head failure.

This is a post that covers my experiences

http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... n&start=75

If you want to drop me a pm, I'd be happy to give you my number to discuss this further.
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Re: overheating

Post by dandywarhol » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:41 pm

Bongos sold in Dairsie - don't know their reputation though :?
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Re: overheating

Post by daviddocherty » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:48 pm

dandywarhol wrote:Bongos sold in Dairsie - don't know their reputation though :?
thank, i will look into it.
cheers
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Re: overheating

Post by mister munkey » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:58 pm

Hi there & welcome.

I had a similar start to my Bongo life a year ago, follow it here

http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... =3&t=15158

Don't get the impression that this a common problem though, just a possible risk of buying "on a budget"

Mine was soon sorted & has given me 14,000 miles trouble free smiles in the last year.

Good luck, read up & ask whatever.

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Re: overheating

Post by daviddocherty » Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:04 am

mister munkey wrote:Hi there & welcome.

I had a similar start to my Bongo life a year ago, follow it here

http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... =3&t=15158

Don't get the impression that this a common problem though, just a possible risk of buying "on a budget"

Mine was soon sorted & has given me 14,000 miles trouble free smiles in the last year.

Good luck, read up & ask whatever.

You're not alone!!


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Thanks for the link to your tale of woes.
looks like its going to be lots and lots of money!!!!
I may have to put my trust in a garage and hope for the best.
cheers :(
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