Charging leisure battery

Technical questions and answers about the Mazda Bongo

Moderators: Doone, westonwarrior

Locked
monkey
Bongonaut
Posts: 78
Joined: Tue May 16, 2006 6:43 am
Location: Ripon area North Yorkshire

Charging leisure battery

Post by monkey » Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:07 pm

I am looking for the best solution to keep the leisure battery charged while rough camping away from mains hook ups. Just had a month in the Med where it was easy to camp in remote spots without the hassle of noisy campers but of course this means that the leisure battery drains quickly resulting in limited fridge use and warm beer!
Given that we spent much of the time trying to get in the shade, it seems logical to think of a solar device fitted either on the dash or perhaps on the roof?
Does anyone have any views either way?
I have seen solar devices ranging from about 50 to 100 quid.
monkey
Bongonaut
Posts: 78
Joined: Tue May 16, 2006 6:43 am
Location: Ripon area North Yorkshire

Re: Charging leisure battery

Post by monkey » Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:56 pm

I run a Waeco compressor fridge and the usual lights but not much else. Used to get two to three days out of the battery but now get very little. Probably need a new leisure battery as well.
francophile1947
Supreme Being
Posts: 11354
Joined: Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:15 pm
Location: Norwich

Re: Charging leisure battery

Post by francophile1947 » Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:13 pm

Definitely sounds like battery is duff - compressor fridges will run for days on a good battery.
John
(Evidence that intelligent life exists in the universe, is that it hasn't tried to contact us)
User avatar
mikeonb4c
Supreme Being
Posts: 22877
Joined: Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:49 pm
Location: Living with Mango Bongo in the North West but with a tendency to roam
Contact:

Re: Charging leisure battery

Post by mikeonb4c » Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:43 pm

When camping in hot climates and needing to lkeep things cool in a fridge, I keep wondering what could be achieved with evaporative cooling (i.e. when water evaporates it casues cooling) This would be a simple, elecricity free way of cooling things, if not seroiusly chilling. Used inconjuction with electric cooling it might at least reduce the electricity demand.

Has anyone every heard of anything like this being tried? The ideal would be a shady spot, with a breeze over the damp evaporator surface in order to get max. evaporation. Low atmospheric humidity would also be relevant. 8)
User avatar
lizard
Supreme Being
Posts: 1208
Joined: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:28 pm
Location: Somerset

Re: Charging leisure battery

Post by lizard » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:10 pm

mikeonb4c wrote:When camping in hot climates and needing to lkeep things cool in a fridge, I keep wondering what could be achieved with evaporative cooling (i.e. when water evaporates it casues cooling) This would be a simple, elecricity free way of cooling things, if not seroiusly chilling. Used inconjuction with electric cooling it might at least reduce the electricity demand.

Has anyone every heard of anything like this being tried? The ideal would be a shady spot, with a breeze over the damp evaporator surface in order to get max. evaporation. Low atmospheric humidity would also be relevant. 8)

I have heard of a can of beer in a wet sock hanging in a breeze. I have not tried this yet, but this seems similar to the above.
There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life.

F Zappa
splitpin
Bongolier
Posts: 154
Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:40 pm
Location: Co Durham

Re: Charging leisure battery

Post by splitpin » Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:46 pm

Mikeonb4c, when I first started camping, years ago in early 70s, evaporative coolers were available and worked in as much that they kept things cool but not cold, had to remember to keep topping up with water. Used one a couple of seasons then bought a camping fridge.
splitpin
Bongolier
Posts: 154
Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:40 pm
Location: Co Durham

Re: Charging leisure battery

Post by splitpin » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:10 pm

Forgot to say, nowadays we use two 80 amp hr leisure batteries, and two freestanding 15w solar panels which keep the batteries topped up enough to run compressor fridge for over a week. The solar panels can just sit on top of dash or placed outside for best angle to sun if you are staying beside van.
monkey
Bongonaut
Posts: 78
Joined: Tue May 16, 2006 6:43 am
Location: Ripon area North Yorkshire

Re: Charging leisure battery

Post by monkey » Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:12 pm

I have tried the beer in the sock technique and it does actually work. Keeps beer cool rather than cold. How feasible would it be to roof mount a couple of solar panels so that they catch the rays as the van is in motion as well as static?
User avatar
Simon Jones
Supreme Being
Posts: 9341
Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:34 pm
Location: Salisbury (ish), Wiltshire

Re: Charging leisure battery

Post by Simon Jones » Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:03 pm

Several Bongo owners have done just that & mounted big panels on the roof. However, if you're driving, you will get considerably more charge from the alternator than the solar panels.

Alternatively, get a giant damp sock & attach that to the roof whilst driving to increase the evaporation effect :).
User avatar
mikeonb4c
Supreme Being
Posts: 22877
Joined: Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:49 pm
Location: Living with Mango Bongo in the North West but with a tendency to roam
Contact:

Re: Charging leisure battery

Post by mikeonb4c » Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:15 pm

splitpin wrote:Mikeonb4c, when I first started camping, years ago in early 70s, evaporative coolers were available and worked in as much that they kept things cool but not cold, had to remember to keep topping up with water. Used one a couple of seasons then bought a camping fridge.
Aha! Thanks splitpin, so such things do/did exist. Must Goggle and see what's out there. The point being that even if it needs assistance from electric refrigeration, at the least the evaporative cooling will reduce the amount of work required of the electrical cooling 8)
splitpin
Bongolier
Posts: 154
Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:40 pm
Location: Co Durham

Re: Charging leisure battery

Post by splitpin » Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:47 pm

mikeonb4c wrote:
splitpin wrote:Mikeonb4c, when I first started camping, years ago in early 70s, evaporative coolers were available and worked in as much that they kept things cool but not cold, had to remember to keep topping up with water. Used one a couple of seasons then bought a camping fridge.
Aha! Thanks splitpin, so such things do/did exist. Must Goggle and see what's out there. The point being that even if it needs assistance from electric refrigeration, at the least the evaporative cooling will reduce the amount of work required of the electrical cooling 8)
Good idea Mikeonb4c, anything which reduces power consumption is no bad thing.
Locked

Return to “Techie Stuff”