Air "Con" seems that way at Kwik Fit

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Air "Con" seems that way at Kwik Fit

Post by Nibs » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:25 pm

8) :D :lol: Hi, this morning have paid £44.95 to hav air con regassed at Kwik Fit, collected drove home only to find that it is still not blowing cold air. Rang Kwik Fit and asked the question " do you check the air con after regassing" . YES the chap replied to which I explained that it is just the same as when I left it with them. Bring it in tomorrow it may be that you need a new refrigeration unit! Anyone any ideas?
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Post by francophile1947 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:33 pm

I thought they promised "No Fix - No Fee" - at least get your money back.
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Post by mikeonb4c » Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:01 pm

I was in my local Kwikfit 1st thing today for an aircon check. The manager was grumpy, but the fitter was good. The Kwikfit poster said 10% improvement in coldness or no charge.

I was able to tell the fitter I needed Gas R134A (1150g) and 14ml PAG oil. Did I know which type of PAG oil he asked as the wrong type could damage my compressor. He said 90% of cars use PAG 46 but didn't want to risk it. He said he'd check the temp. of air coming out my aircon vents anyway. He got a reading of 8.9 degrees C and thought that was quite good and probably the best the Bongo system could do. I thought he was a fine chap, insisted he accept the price of a pint from me, and said I would find out what PAG was needed and come back when my aircon seemed more likely to need regassing.

This tale may help you in 'discussions' with your Kwikfit. In short, you shouldn't be paying.

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PS - anyone know if it is PAG46 thats needed :roll:
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Re: Air "Con" seems that way at Kwik Fit

Post by neepboy » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:16 pm

I'm not Kwak flits biggest fan..exhaust for my paj £379.75....or buy the same one from the supplier and fit it myself for £186...
Many of these offers appear to be a way of getting you "over the door" so they can piont out "faults" that then you pay large amounts to fix.
Also be aware some of these exhaust and tyre places used to offer bonuses to their fitters based on what they could get the customer to "buy" on their "advice"..this practice has been mentioned in the motoring press and I dont know if its still happens ;) but it does appear to encourage fitters to replace as much as poss to make the best wage.

If you want you air con done get the system pressure checked first as this will tell you straight away if there is a leak..no point in filling up if there is!
I asked a guy in a commercial air con van that was in a car park if he would do mine for cash. He explained the system and gasses, pressure tested, found a leak, swapped a pipe and refilled my ac....£35 cash...you could try doing the same!
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Re: Air "Con" seems that way at Kwik Fit

Post by Nibs » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:54 pm

:D :) 8) :lol: Thanks folks, took her for a run and cold air is now coming through! maybe I just dont use the air con enough, will ring Kwik Fit in the morning and explain all is O.K
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Post by francophile1947 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:00 pm

Nibs wrote::D :) 8) :lol: Thanks folks, took her for a run and cold air is now coming through! maybe I just dont use the air con enough, will ring Kwik Fit in the morning and explain all is O.K
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Re: Air "Con" seems that way at Kwik Fit

Post by David Edwards » Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:30 pm

Yep hope lots more peeps read this and switch it on to prevent woe in the future, mine is one nearly every day, lol. I dont feel the cold and love the climate control which, in the bongo is what we really have.
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Re: Air "Con" seems that way at Kwik Fit

Post by lizard » Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:34 pm

neepboy wrote:I'm not Kwak flits biggest fan..exhaust for my paj £379.75....or buy the same one from the supplier and fit it myself for £186...
Many of these offers appear to be a way of getting you "over the door" so they can piont out "faults" that then you pay large amounts to fix.
Also be aware some of these exhaust and tyre places used to offer bonuses to their fitters based on what they could get the customer to "buy" on their "advice"..this practice has been mentioned in the motoring press and I dont know if its still happens ;) but it does appear to encourage fitters to replace as much as poss to make the best wage.

If you want you air con done get the system pressure checked first as this will tell you straight away if there is a leak..no point in filling up if there is!
I asked a guy in a commercial air con van that was in a car park if he would do mine for cash. He explained the system and gasses, pressure tested, found a leak, swapped a pipe and refilled my ac....£35 cash...you could try doing the same!
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Re: Air "Con" seems that way at Kwik Fit

Post by sparkymik » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:33 pm

I find mine needs to run for some time before it starts to effect conditions inside the cab, also if you run the rear at the same time it has to play catch up, but like you say it needs a run now and again to keep it in trim

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Re: Air "Con" seems that way at Kwik Fit

Post by MAXANDPADDY » Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:51 pm

Don't expect instant Cold from your aircon. The fact that you need to use it, normally means its a fairly warm day. The components and ducting will have been heat soaked and will need to be cooled by the airflow before any cool air eventually reaches you in the cabin. This can take quite a while, and make sure the control is set to recirc air, otherwise the system is trying to cool warm fresh air all the time. Hope this helps.
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Post by dp bradford » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:25 pm

MAXANDPADDY wrote:Don't expect instant Cold from your aircon. ....
The output from mine is cool within about 30 seconds or so and the whole van's comfortable in less than 5 minutes.... :?

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Re: Air "Con" seems that way at Kwik Fit

Post by daveblueozzie » Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:02 am

found this post by Dabs. pag46 is the oil.

http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... ilit=pag46
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