right wheel and tyres

spicedwomen · Post by **spicedwomen** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:05 pm

Hi can some one please help i have this morning gone to have my tyres changes and came home in tears!!!!!!!!!!!! aparently i am braking the law and its a mot fail i have 225/50/r16 a bmw tyre aaprently, please can any one advice as to what i should have i hope me alloys are ok as well if not tell us as well

Veg_Ian · Post by **Veg_Ian** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:15 pm

Breaking the law? I think someone is unnecessarily putting the fear of God into you. I don't see how you can be breaking the law unless the tyres are catching the suspension or bodywork or the tyres themselves are unfit ie. below the minimum tread depth or incorrect 'H' rating.

Check out the "Wheels" section for advice on sizes etc. Obviously your alloys are aftermarket and not standard so I can't really comment on what tyres you should put on. Do a search on here and see if you can find if someone has fitted the same wheels as you and what tyres they have fitted. Alternatively go back to the MOT testing station and ask if they are capable of telling you what constitutes 'illegal' and what they would recommend you do to make them legal.

francophile1947 · Post by **francophile1947** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:30 pm

Your tyres are 4.4% too small, but that's not illegal - it just means you're not travelling as fast as your speedo says and using more fuel.
I suspect that they are not of the correct load. After the 225/50x16 on the tyre, there should be a number and a letter e.g. 94H - your front tyres should have a number of at least 92 and the rear tyres 96.

Veg_Ian · Post by **Veg_Ian** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:57 pm

94H - your front tyres should have a number of at least 92 and the rear tyres 96.

That's what I meant to say John but couldn't quite remember the detail. It must be great to have a memory

spicedwomen · Post by **spicedwomen** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:12 pm

Thanks for that lol mine have all got 92v on them ??? i have found some that are 195/70/15 would they be any better or can some one tell me what they have on there bongo would be well up for saving fuel on bongo lol cheers

spicedwomen · Post by **spicedwomen** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:35 pm

HI there so if i put on the back of me bongo 215/50/r16 then on the front 195/50/r16 that would be betta is this correct lol

scanner · Post by **scanner** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:13 pm

spicedwomen wrote:HI there so if i put on the back of me bongo 215/50/r16 then on the front 195/50/r16 that would be betta is this correct lol

The important bit isn't the ???/?? - 16 bit at the front it's the 2 or maybe 3 digits at the end that are combined with a letter.

The letter must be "H" or upwards and the digits must be no lower than 92 on the front axle and 96 on the rear axle.

Those digits are the "Load index" and they show what load the tyre can carry if that is too.

spicedwomen · Post by **spicedwomen** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:49 pm

so 92v is alright then as its higher so now i really confused (which doesnt take much and i am not blonde lol) i have on the front and back at present 225/55/r16 so if i went to buy 215/55/r16 tommorow that would be ok then as long as the numbers after that are higher then "h" and then 195/75/16 for the front im even and might see betta performence with me car oh this is getting complex now i just want the right tyres on me bongo any help would be really appriciated thanks Emma

francophile1947 · Post by **francophile1947** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:54 pm

spicedwomen wrote:so 92v is alright then as its higher so now i really confused (which doesnt take much and i am not blonde lol) i have on the front and back at present 225/55/r16 so if i went to buy 215/55/r16 tommorow that would be ok then as long as the numbers after that are higher then "h" and then 195/75/16 for the front im even and might see betta performence with me car oh this is getting complex now i just want the right tyres on me bongo any help would be really appriciated thanks Emma

Now you're confusing me

You're original post said you had 225/50x16 - now you're saying 225/55x16

226/55x16 is, near enough, the correct size and the load rating of 92 is correct for the fronts but too low for the rears - they must be 96 or higher.
The 195/75x16 that you mention are 7% bigger than the ones you have at the moment - if your Bongo is 4WD, it would cause massive damage if you fitted them

215/55x16 is 1.7 % smaller than the ones you have at the moment (IF they are 225/55x16), so will result in more fuel being used.

scanner · Post by **scanner** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:01 pm

spicedwomen wrote:so 92v is alright then as its higher so now i really confused (which doesnt take much and i am not blonde lol) i have on the front and back at present 225/55/r16 so if i went to buy 215/55/r16 tommorow that would be ok then as long as the numbers after that are higher then "h" and then 195/75/16 for the front im even and might see betta performence with me car oh this is getting complex now i just want the right tyres on me bongo any help would be really appriciated thanks Emma

Higher than what?

V is higher than H but 92 isn't high enough for the rear axle.

All the fitter needs to know is -

The speed rating letter has to be "H" or Higher.

The load index number has to be 92 or Higher on the Front and 96 or higher on the Rear.

spicedwomen · Post by **spicedwomen** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:24 pm

Right thanks for all the advice i know what i gotta do now go to the garage and i cant be fobed off lol the tyres are what i origanally said lol i gotta remember the number bit lol ttfn thanks very much

scanner · Post by **scanner** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:07 pm

scanner wrote:
spicedwomen wrote:so 92v is alright then as its higher so now i really confused (which doesnt take much and i am not blonde lol) i have on the front and back at present 225/55/r16 so if i went to buy 215/55/r16 tommorow that would be ok then as long as the numbers after that are higher then "h" and then 195/75/16 for the front im even and might see betta performence with me car oh this is getting complex now i just want the right tyres on me bongo any help would be really appriciated thanks Emma

Higher than what?

V is higher than H but 92 isn't high enough for the rear axle.

All the fitter needs to know is -

The speed rating letter has to be "H" or Higher.

The load index number has to be 92 or Higher on the Front and 96 or higher on the Rear.

And if it's 4 wheel drive the circumferences of the tyres on the front and rear axles have to be within 2% of each other.

The standard sizes are (or should be) shown on a plate inside the driver's door opening - any good tyre depot worth it's salt should be able to advise from that the best size(s) for 16" wheels - I've found 215/60 - 16 all round to be spot on.

bigdaddycain · Post by **bigdaddycain** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:53 am

scanner wrote:
And if it's 4 wheel drive the circumferences of the tyres on the front and rear axles have to be within 2% of each other.

Take special note of the above Emma...Or you will face a bigger bill than just new tyres! Best of luck.

spicedwomen · Post by **spicedwomen** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:03 am

HIya thanks for that everyone mine is a 2 wheel drive

David Edwards · Post by **David Edwards** » Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:53 am

Well I have got all round.. 215..65..15's which are 96H rated, they cost £42.00 fitted and are Nangkang make. Have been on for two years now no probs and still loads of life in em. Shop around in case this particular garage is trying to "take you for a ride".

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