Would it work(Rear fog lamp)

[daveblueozzie]

i have not mentioned anything about mot or legalities regarding mot.

[mikeonb4c]

I haven't used my foglight once in anger in nearly 2 years, but the Bongo is not good for rearwards visibility at the best of times. At night you want all the reversing light you can get. I'd fit an extra lamp for the foglight, preferably recessed in the bumper. I have twin recessed ones and they look great but if I were doing it again I'd have twin recessed extra reversing lamps and then I might give up one of the standard reversing lights for use as the foglight.

[bigdaddycain]

I'd go along with that mike,one can't have enough reversing lamps!

http://s25.photobucket.com/albums/c97/j ... C00221.jpg

My flushed bumper lights double as fogs when i fit the red bulbs for the mot,i keep the bulbs in my glovebox,along with a screwdriver, just on the offchance of a pea-souper "en route", couple of minutes to swap the bulbs over...

[mikeonb4c]

Phew BDC, thats bright - I can't see to type this reply

[teenmal]

I'd go along with that mike,one can't have enough reversing lamps!

http://s25.photobucket.com/albums/c97/j ... C00221.jpg

My flushed bumper lights double as fogs when i fit the red bulbs for the mot,i keep the bulbs in my glovebox,along with a screwdriver, just on the offchance of a pea-souper "en route", couple of minutes to swap the bulbs over...

Let there be light. Great lights.

[scanner]

Some years ago I seem to remember that fog light were only connected via the dipped beam circuit (well certainly on VX Cavaliers) and I always thought that was the right idea (if we really must have the s***ing things) as if you can use main beam you certainly don't need the fogging things on.

[bigdaddycain]

That's quite correct, now i come to think of it, every car i've owned that has been a post 1990 (ish) vehicle, has only had the rear fog operative if the dipped beams were in operation. The bongo, (well, my bongo at least) only needs the sidelights on to operate the rear fogs,they still work with the main beams switched on too,my other cars have automatically switched the rear fogs off if main beam was used.

[Aethelric]

hi John not sure about your car ,but you cannot turn your dipped beam headlights off on a motorway and just have spots, that is illegal. you have to have dipped headlights on and not just sidelights on a motorway by law. so i think most vehicle spots are connected to the dipped beam headlights so as not to break this motorway law.

I wasn't sure about that when I read it as it seems to defeat the purpose of foglights. This is from

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_1 ... ontfoglamp

Requirements about the use of headlamps and front fog lamps
25.—(1) Save as provided in paragraph (2), no person shall use, or cause or permit to be used, on a road a vehicle which is fitted with obligatory dipped-beam headlamps unless every such lamp is kept lit-

(a) during the hours of darkness, except on a road which is a restricted road for the purposes of section 81 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 by virtue of a system of street lighting when it is lit; and


(b) in seriously reduced visibility.

but its qualified by

(2) The provisions of paragraph (1) do not apply-

(b) in the case of a motor vehicle, other than a solo motor bicycle or motor bicycle combination, fitted with a pair of obligatory dipped-beam headlamps, if-


(ii) in seriously reduced visibility, a pair of front fog lamps which is so fitted that the outermost part of the illuminated area of each lamp in the pair is not more than 400 mm from the outer edge of the vehicle is kept lit;

So its seems to me that when its a pea-souper you can just use your front fog lights without dips.

Dave

[francophile1947]

Just checked my 2004 Fiat. Rear fogs only work when front fogs are on and they work with or without the dipped been being on. I usually only drive with front fogs on in a pea-souper because the glare from dipped beam limits visibility too much.

[daveblueozzie]

highway code rule for motorways.

The Highway Code 226-237: Driving in adverse weather conditions226
You MUST use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced, generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet). You may also use front or rear fog lights but you MUST switch them off when visibility improves (see Rule 236).


[Law RVLR regs 25 & 27]

236
You MUST NOT use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously reduced (see Rule 226) as they dazzle other road users and can obscure your brake lights. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves.


[Law RVLR regs 25 & 27]

[francophile1947]

highway code rule for motorways.

The Highway Code 226-237: Driving in adverse weather conditions226
You MUST use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced, generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet). You may also use front or rear fog lights but you MUST switch them off when visibility improves (see Rule 236).


[Law RVLR regs 25 & 27]

What a stupid rule!! - visibilty is drastically improved without headlamps on.

[Aethelric]

highway code rule for motorways.

The Highway Code 226-237: Driving in adverse weather conditions226
You MUST use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced, generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet). You may also use front or rear fog lights but you MUST switch them off when visibility improves (see Rule 236).


[Law RVLR regs 25 & 27]

What a stupid rule!! - visibilty is drastically improved without headlamps on.

It was the RVLR regs (Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations) 25 I was quoting above.

The highway code is an interpretation of the Law - in this case not a clear one. The RVLR seems quite clear though, if a bit verbose.

Dave